If Alexander Boris de Pfiffel Johnson is true to form, he’ll promise them their Ultra Brexit, then backslide continually until he a) Accepts (with Parliament) the EUs deal, b) faces a vote of no confidence, or c) risks a GE to break the impasse - that’s risky with the loonies flocking to Man Of The PayPal Farage.
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Well, compared to Trump, certainly. Though that’s not saying anything.
As Charles Stross put it:
"Trump is Trump: he can’t help it.
But Boris is just about clever enough to consciously understand what he’s doing."
Hell, a war within the UK gets more possible. Scotland’s hatred of Brexit is matched only by their hatred of Boris, so it’s pretty clear what the vote on another independence referendum will look like. That’s not going to go over well with Brexiteers, ironically. Things could get really ugly.
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Well consider my 2016 election PTSD triggered.
If anyone needs me, I will be drinking in the shower for the rest of the day…
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its in a loop.
5 years ago and still the best rant about this fucker…
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Yeah, because a party with no policies and reps who are even madder than the Tory leadership candidates (yes, that is possible) is going to sweep to power. UKIP got 30% in the 2014 EU election and they won countless seats in the General Election the following year (countless because there weren’t any.)
Sure, the Brexit, I mean, Nigel Farage Party is getting a lot of attention right now, but they couldn’t even win a by-election in a seat that voted Leave by 60% the other week (although I grant you that this was mostly due to FPTP rather than anything else.)
Forgive me for not being too worried about them. I am, however, still terrified of any of the likely Tory leaders, especially the ones passing themselves off as moderate (notably Hunt, Gove and Javid.) They still all want to privatise our entire country and cut taxes for their rich friends.
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Remember, its the dumb and blind leading the dumber and blinder and crazier there now. The world seems to want clownish buffoon strongmen with bad hair lately.
It’s like there’s a virus of stupid infecting the world right now, and few are immune. I’m ready to move to the south pole to escape it all (seriously, theres a job there I’d love), but I’m hoping the stupid dies out first
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Didn’t the Brexit Party just become the single biggest party in the EU Parliament and is currently topping all UK polls for the next general election?
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Everyone here should watch at least the first 2 minutes of that. Really explains how fucking backwards and corrupt Borris’s thinking is.
We are all doomed
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Iceland. Thats about it
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If the current daily plan in Parliament is " How can we possibly make this worse?" then I have to say, they are doing a bloody splendid job of it.
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Wouldn’t it be a turnip monarchy? Brenda gets an opt out unlike the rest of us though, she can choose to live in Canada, Australia or New Zealand and I don’t think they get to say no.
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Not all.
One of those polls had them tied for the lead with the Lib Dems, others have Labour ahead. The polls have also predicted four different leaders in the last month (Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, Brexit). It isn’t good but I don’t know how reliable the polls are right now
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As I said, the same was largely true of UKIP in 2014; EU elections are not remotely representative of General Elections, especially once campaigning actually starts.
The instructive comparison is with the 2017 General Election when the Tories were hugely ahead at the start with folk predicting 100+ seat majorities. They were outpaced on the ground by Labour local party members, which is what really matters. (I accept that Labour didn’t win in 2017, but they won a hell of a lot more seats than UKIP did. And I also accept that the Tories were led by the most uncharismatic person possible. Nigel Farage didn’t come close to winning though, even as Brexit was already a fiasco.)
That’s not to say that in a General Election “the Brexit Party” might not win a few seats; there are always outliers that mess with things. If they did stand in every seat, however, then I reckon the result would be more likely to be an actual Labour majority* since the Brexit Party’s cannibalised votes would be largely from the Tories and that would swing more than a few marginal seats (cf. what happened in 1983 but from the other direction.) And that doesn’t take into account the tactical vote which would be hugely energised by a serious Brexit Party showing, as the EU elections also demonstrated.
*actually, I take that back. Labour probably cannot win a sole majority any more because of Scotland. And the LibDems would probably start to claw their way back as well. The Conservatives are the only party who could win a real majority any more, and they no longer have the serious ground forces to fight outside of their strongholds. Unless they push the boundaries of breaking the law as they did in 2015 of course…
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Depends how you read the results; people went with the parties who are either strongly leave (brexit party) or strongly remain (green, libdems, plaid, snp) so the remain vote was split and if you combine those votes then remain comes out on top.
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I spent an evening chatting with Jagmeet recently and I suspect he might make a decent PM. Mr Sneer, err Scheer, not so much.
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