Boy Scout leaders destroy ancient formation in Utah's Goblin Valley

Next stop: Mt. Rushmore!

Yup, that thing was just Fixin’ to come down all by itself, he didn’t have to use physics or Nothin’ to bring it down!

Well even idiots can sometimes learn by rote example. How many politicians have farted out something similar? I’m sorry that I’m not sorry, you shouldn’t have been offended you pussy, what I did was fine, for the right reasons, I’m fantastic, and what I did, in the end, really was inconsequential, get over it.

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This wouldn’t be news (international news!) if it didn’t confirm the prejudices of every snooty hipster and yuppie on the planet.

#Popular Science Show Personalities Damage Priceless Geologic Formation
Staff from ‘Mythbusters’ destroy ‘goblin’ formation in protected national park
By E.I. ‘If Someone Passes This Around On The Internet As Truth Imma Be Pissed’ Ingoldsby

The cult phenomena show known as Mythbusters tests urban legends in order to educate as they entertain. Thursday, they inadvertently educated by showing what not to do in a national park. The movie magic experts Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman who head up the show were reportedly testing an urban legend that the Goblin formations had been protected by fairy magic and could not be harmed by any amount of explosives.

The formations involve large stones perched precariously. Geologists insist the stones aren’t perched but rather used to be a part of the stones they are perched beneath. The formations were caused by rain and rain runoff eroding away at the base of the stones.

##Yeah. Still news.

On your desk, does the fossil have context?

Oh very thoughtful, very impressive and your use of bold sized text should fill me with chagrin. Except that one didn’t make BBC news.

It was a fake article (says so right in the fake by-line) made by me to illustrate that it would still be news if it didn’t fit our yuppie hipster prejudices.

I drive past this several days a week, though I go by the backside of the mountain. I kind of wish they’d sandblast that off the mountain. The history of it is kind of interesting though. The memorial itself was designed by a woman in the Daughters of the confederacy, and was started by the dude who did Mount rushmore, but he left in the middle. I think the city ended up completing it when they took over the land and kicked out the KKK (cause Hot’Lanta is too busy to hate, yo)… Now the city of stone mountain is majority African American (over 60% of the population, I think). And there are regular interesting events and festivals, like the Highland Games and Japanfest, as well as the laser show, and rides, and they do this weird winter snow mountain, where they make fake snow that you can tube or ski down.

But it’s still there, and it’s huge and no one really pays attention to it anymore (except, I guess confederate nationalists or whatever you want to call those assholes with the rebel flag on their cars?), for whatever that is worth. It’s a nice park, is what I mean, even with that impressive monstrosity. Oh, and they have to clean the thing:

http://www.pba.org/programming/programs/atlantasounds/5141/

Sorry if this was a bit off-topic. The dudes in the video are terrible Boy Scout leaders.

I think laypeople can see value in the beauty of such a formation and the shame in senselessly destroying it even if it isn’t of significant value to science.

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Many of them don’t mind eating their shit and vomit either…

I think you nailed it…I see a political career in your future!

I’m reminded of an Onion article.

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Oh geez, that’s probably the lowest diss I could receive!

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Ugh. I know you were just trying to be pithy, but that being said, my son’s in a wonderful Cub Scout troop. The families are good people, and the leaders are decent and caring people. We’re involved in a lot of service projects in our community, working at the Food Bank, cleaning up parks, etc.

Recently, while studying for the boys’ Citizenship pin for one of their requirements, we talked about what it means to be a good citizen, and how that means not only wanting to be involved in their community, but actually taking action. We talked about there are many different ways to be in service to each other, whether by joining the military, being a volunteer fireman, or volunteering for the Peace Corp, Americorp, or even at the YMCA. We talked to them in length about how when they see someone being bullied or demeaned it was their duty to stand up and defend that person, and that at times, being a good citizen means disobeying bad laws. We profiled people like Davy Crockett, who defended the rights of Native Americans, and Nelson Mandela, for his work.

In addition, we take our responsibility to the environment very seriously. We’ve made sure that all the boys have earned their “Leave No Trace” badges, and constantly remind that we leave a place cleaner than we found it, we take nothing that belongs to nature, and not alter our surroundings unless absolutely necessary.

Please stop assuming that because some members and troops in the Scouts are idiots, that we all are. Your generalizations are unfair and hurtful, and do absolutely nothing to further discourse.

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Neither did these rock-toppling yahoos. Or Yahoo, for that matter. Happier, simpler times.

Some day, that giant goddamn eagle that’s entombed in there will get loose, you mean? Best dynamite it now, say I. For the Children.

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The organization is a stalwart discriminator against gay people. That isn’t a pithy comment nor is it debatable based on their track record. As such, I am not making generalizations, I am referencing the official and hateful stance of the organization as a whole.

Come January 1st of 2014, they’ve voted to start allowing gay youths into the organization but there will still be a ban on gay adult leaders.

Was I a scout many years ago? Yes. Do they have some good programs and train some valuable skills? Yes. Are all scouts and leaders buffoons? Of course not.

However, should any parent or youth who believes in equality remain a part of the organization until they entirely fix their backwards, hateful ways? No. Should the organization be characterized as discriminatory every time it gets publicity (particularly negative publicity)? Hell yes.

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Some choose to criticize from without, others choose to change the organization from within. If all of the people who believe in equality for all, as we do, leave the organization then it will only be left to the bigots, which would be a monstrous shame considering all of the good that Scouts do, and can do.

Like any human organization, the BSA has problems, and some of them are big, but I would rather work on changing it into a more inclusive and equal organization. You’ve chosen to mock it. That’s your choice and I support your right to do so, but you’d do more good for all if you put the snark aside.

Making the kind of bold derogatory statements you did about a whole group (those involved in Scouts) is just as discriminatory as those those who would claim gay people have no place in Scouts.

Regardless, as I said, it’s your opinion, and you’re welcome to it. However, I hope at some point you stop hurling invective, and put some of that energy on enacting positive change instead.

Best regards

The Boy Scouts are a bigoted organization and this will be pointed out and mocked every time they come up in public discourse. The mockery, snark and public disgust with the organization is a good thing, not a bad thing. This mockery is society working to ‘enact positive change’ by making the public discourse about the organization constantly focus on their bigoted values. Why do you think we are getting the change regarding youth membership? It wasn’t because we ignored the bigotry and didn’t hurl invective at the intolerance.

Also, “bold derogatory statements”? “Nature Trampling” is what these scout leaders were doing and “Homophobia and Hate-Speech” have been hallmarks of the national leadership of the organization for decades… These labels aren’t bold, they’re widely accepted, they aren’t derogatory, they’re true.