Very honest can, and maybe a few more men will begin to understand the concept if this beer gets more widely distributed.
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So, to be completely blunt, how do I talk about beer to twenty Indian women without mansplaining?
[/quote] I’d approach this as any topic, regardless of who it’s aimed for. I would list a range of topics or important terms that everyone needs to know or have the same level of understanding. Take a few minutes before you get into the meat of it to have them ask you questions, or if someone knows a lot about a given topic to share with the group (and you can fill in the gaps after they’re done). This way there’s more of a conversation between you and the group.
If they don’t happen to know too much about what you’re covering i would still try to open up the floor to get their thoughts and opinions as you go along. Engagement is important so they don’t feel like you’re just talking at them.
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Is that an IMAGO beer that you are drinking?
The fact that you care enough to be concerned goes a long way. I think at a really basic level the way you regard the people you are speaking to will be evident in your interactions. If you are coming from a place of mutual respect and intrest in the same subject, it will be felt. I think the trouble starts either when there isn’t a basic level of respect (even unconciously, if that makes sense), or when the speaker is the defensive for whatever reason.
Not sure if that is at all helpful, lol.
Good luck.
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Honestly, I feel like I’m being lazy letting others, especially @Sagoli, @Magdalene, and @Missy_Pants do all the heavy lifting here! But they are kicking so much ass!
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You do a lot of heavy lifting usually; there’s nothing wrong with letting others take the weight sometimes.
Take a load off, Mindy…
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I think a lot of this needs to be considered relative to the time these labels were created. What voices did women have when these labels were designed? (I’m going to guess for many, not much of one).
Ascribing future artistic merit to symbols to justify their modern existence has been a part of everything from unfortunate surnames (grabher) to sports teams, to “locker room talk”, and even to the idea that it’s “ok” for traditionally male jobs to have “pinups” in their lockers or whatnot.
Would something like this get created in a world with sexual/racial/cultural equality? No? Then carrying it forward is wrong, IMHO.
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Yup. Not really all that hard.
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Yes, please stay.
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As someone of the other gender do stick around… you are good at stating your case and we need more of that around here… seriously. I sure learn a lot from it so please stay and participate cause while @anon61221983, @Missy_Pants, @gadgetgirl02, and others who are awesome could use some backup from others like them and not so much from guys like me who need to shut the fuck up and listen more.
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“Nasty Woman” was claimed and turned around within about sixty seconds after Rot Dumpland muttered it during the third debate.
If he bothered pitching it to the whole staff he was almost certainly looking for sincere feedback. If he just wanted validation he’d simply have a small cadre of bootlickers to tell him how great his ideas are (like any WH staffer who wants to maintain access to Dumpland, for instance.)
@jerwin Regardless of her putative good intentions, it takes an extreme case of obliviousness not to see how that name is going to be perceived among the general public. (Hint: It ain’t female empowerment.)
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Boy howdy, it’s burning up outside. I could sure go for some repressive desublimation right about now.
That may well have been his intent. But I think it’s worth considering two things:
1, How many female employees there were to be asked, and 2, how comfortable the average person would be telling the CEO they work for that they don’t like his idea because it’s sexist. It also bears mentioning that Flying Dog was established twenty or so years ago.
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Dude fucking really?
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Thank you for proving the point I was making. By expressing this point of view women obviously risk losing their jobs and or drawing the ire of their employer.
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