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Talk about synchronicity! I just posted a link to a long read in another thread about how minor events like Archduke Ferdinand cause worldwide upheaval, over and over again.

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I actually read that yesterday. I felt it suffered from a lot of “us good: others bad” and was thus naive geopolitically and he didn’t actually seem to have read critical hiatories. For example he makes a big point out of famine in China, rather than the massive overall rise in the age of death and the population rise with it that is more typical of the second half of the 20th c in China. Run the numbers on Gapminder, it’s fascinating, rather than the Britiah empire caused famines in India and China which merely caused economic, social, and demographic devastation.

Excuse phone fingers, I really think they diminish the discourse by making a longish reply very difficult. And the spelling likely poor. I’ll try to fix it but it’s hard on this wee phone screen.

The end result of that, for me, is that he fails to see that the bigger issue is the underlying fearmongering and the usage of in/out group identification to generate disproportionate fear of and dehumanizations of the other such that the proximate cause or excuse which precipitates the calamity and devastation such as the Great War, the holocaust, or the war of imperialism in the Middle East. It isn’t predictable, nor is it in fact important, what it “causes” however is. So WWI was the pieces playing out as they had led themselves to with hate fearmongering jingoistic and technology. Ditto the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. 9/11 isn’t actually that important as, obviously, it had nothing to do with Iraq anyway.

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Well, the original concept was “alien from a high-gravity world raised on Earth,” so he was genetically stronger and faster and could leap really high, because his body expected everything to be heavier.

…And then they started adding powers and it snowballed from there.

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Yep. Superman started out rather tame. He couldn’t even fly originally.

The 50s was when it got SUPER crazy with them adding another god like power every other month.

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Captain Marvel (aka Shazam) once referred to WW with “what the hot Greek chick said” in her presence & she didn’t correct him. If that helps.

I think, in DC at least, she is Greek. Birth accounts vary slightly from Zeus, to clay Zeus gave her mother that she molded & breathed life into - to, IIRC, more accurately on the last one, clay from Zeus that her mum & Hades shaped together. Tho all involve Greek Gods…

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If I recall right the first time he did fly it was by kicking his legs really fast to push the air like a propeller, or like treading water. Not really a dignified look.

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To begin with, same editing formula.

Also, same color grading style (good old teal-and-porange).

The technical term is BRAAAM (three As). BWONG if you must.

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Is it going to be dark and gritty? I bet it’s going to be dark and gritty.

And probably teal and orange.

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So, one person asked about why it was set in a World War; it’s from Issue 1.

Chris Pine is playing Steve Trevor.

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IIRC she’s been doing a hard push to bring back Xena.

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Last I heard on that, though, they were thinking it would come back with different actresses…

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Well, that’s a shame. I wonder who they’d cast.

I wonder if they’d even consider Lawless for Wonder Woman; it seems a bit too on the nose after playing Xena. I imagine that Kevin Sorbo as Thor would never have happened.

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Younger women. I wonder if they’d still cast Ted Raimi as Joxer… Ted’s awesome:

Since it’s about box office numbers, probably not. She’s a big star in certain circles (the Raimi universe crowd, Xena fans, etc), but she’s not an A-list celebrity who the big studios consider “bankable” in that way. It’s a shame, because they overlook tons of talent and it’s really their loss.

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I had two sets of underoos in the early 1980s: batgirl and wonder woman. I wore them constantly, to the extent that my mother regretted buying them. I ran around the house in my decorated underwear and I was a superhero. Because superheros can be women and Uhura can be on the Enterprise and sex on TV can be from the woman’s point of view too on “Outlander.” I’ve been waiting for this movie for decades. It may not adhere to canon, it may suck, it may be wonderful. I just don’t care. I’m taking my daughter and we are going to experience something magical together.

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That’s a frustrating thought; that male stars might come back, but not the women, because they’re too old.

I wonder how involved Raimi is.

This story makes me think it’s going to be a crapfest, though I would have thought that as soon as I found out NBC was involved

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I’ve been thinking that for years! :wink:

I don’t know how involved he is in a Xena reboot, but he’s apparently going to be on Ash V. Evil Dead for season 2!!! Ted I mean… not Sam. And not Ivan. Ted.

Too many damn Raimis!!!

Also, I don’t know if you’ve noticed over the years, but tons of the bigger budget films Sam Raimi’s directed always has his core folks involved (Ivan Raimi usually has something to do with the production side, Ted and Bruce often have some sort of cameos, etc). I think it’s always a nice nod of the head to his classic work and an acknowledgement that he got where he was with their help.

And this sort of hollywood mindset was why Chasing Amy was a small indie film instead of bigger project, because Kevin Smith didn’t want to cast Drew Barrymore and some other rugged male lead - he wanted Joey Lauren Adams and (a then not huge star) Ben Affleck. So Miramax gave him a much smaller budget. But it was a great film.

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Amen!

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Lucy Lawless had such a great second act to her career on Spartacus. She doesn’t have to go back to Xena…unless the check is really big.

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She also might be a bit too old to do a lot of the physical work of the part. Besides if the Spartacus has shown us anything, its that Lucy Lawless has some great talent of an actress beyond "action woman: types.

Kevin Sorbo suffered a stroke while on the set of Hercules. He also is somewhat limited physically nowadays. Plus by the accounts of Lucy Lawless and Robert Tapert, he was a bit of a jerk on the set. There is a reason he is doing the “Bible Thumper circuit” as of late.

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Kinda surprised that he didn’t do a double act with Chachi at the RNC.

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