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Years ago I tried to get a rumor started that Ken Lay (Enron guy) wasn’t dead, but hiding-out at Bush’s Crawford ranch. If I just said it, it would be dismissed outright. But I told a couple people that it was a secret, I found out by accident, and they had to promise not to tell–that got me quite a bit further. My “evidence” was that he was friends with Bush and there were no pictures released of Lay’s funeral.

If only YouTube had been around.

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Dunno, those HillSong congregations are pretty massive.

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Was he like this when he was getting promoted up through senior ranks in the Army, or did he go bonkers later?

The antics of the likes of Flynn and Tom Cotton make me very sorry for the men and women who served their country under them.

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This tells me all I need to know about this event.
Don’t need to watch the video to know it involves examples of human gullibility, stupidity, & greed.

Grifters all… perhaps those former military are hawking themselves as the Strong Men That America Needs to this crowd of Fascists.

P.T. Barnum was right, but even he might have been astounded at something like this.

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I’m not watching those idiots gas, but for the record, for those of us ignorant fallen-away ex-Christians… Isn’t it true there is no Satan in Judaism?

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There is, but he’s considered the Adversary versus the personification of evil in the world.

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This guy has never heard of Q?

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His channel All Gas No Breaks wasn’t owned by him and there was a disagreement about money etc etc.

His new channel, Channel 5 News has done a few things now and is under his ownership - check out the other vids they’ve done there are some great ones.

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I agree. It’s much easier to admit you’re wrong, or don’t know than to hold onto an untenable belief in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

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It is easier, for you and I.

But as this video and many, many, many more like it prove, for a subset of the population, admitting you’re wrong is… ego death? And not in the good, “I just took some shrooms and am expanding my horizons” sort of ego death; more like “what little self-esteem I may have had is now gone” ego death.

I know these kind of people, and to say “I’m sorry” is a sign of weakness for them. It’s a point on the board for the adversary. They will argue and justify to a ridiculous degree just to avoid admitting a mistake. I am not innocent of some of that, either, although I hope I’ve grown out of it. I believe it shows some significant strength of character to be able to admit a mistake. To apologize. Not for these folks.

I close by recognizing that I probably screwed up the ego death analogy, above, and that this reply is significantly more verbose than the succinct post to which it replies. And for that I am sorry. :wink:

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Very much the thing that I find so maddening about this as well. But I see a strong link to both multilevel marketing and also niche evangelicalism/new age spiritualism - all three big in the US. So both the language and mindset have hundreds of years of trajectory in the US, and so in a way this is just a tent revival in the parking lot of an herbalife convention. The country has always had a pretty large chunk of the population who stave off brimstone and tarnation with some pretty odd practices, and who are used to being sad that most everyone they know and love are damned.

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So.

Um. Deprogramming isn’t really a thing that works. Unfortunately, most people roped in by the truly dangerous cults never really get ‘cured’ unless they do it themselves. There’s just no real way to undo some damage. I know people will tell you cult deprogrammers exist, but … sadly, that’s almost an urban legend. There’s nobody out there that can use some tricks of persuasion to “unfuck” those minds. There’s no magic trick that people’s own families aren’t trying and failing to reach with already.

There’s just them accepting they were wrong, or them dying believing this stuff.

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I have take the tack of mutually agreeing with internet predictors on specific dates to check back and see how their world views fared.

These people never really move on. But they eventually shut the fuck up.

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The Q Continuum.

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He would be astounded at how much money he could make off these credulous idiots. He never actually lied but twisted the words to let unsophisticated rubes draw their own wrong conclusions. Professional Qanoners just lie outright to the multitudes of rubes.

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“prophetic justice ministry”

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I’ve been searching for the truth all my life - says the lady with the facelift. Erp …sorry, no, you can’t handle the truth.

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Never been to a megachurch?

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meh! drop in the bucket compared to the mass delusion in the republican party

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