I’m just pretty sure they are positioning themselves to spin Manning’s release as an attempt for the US to hurt Wikileaks/Assange.
I have not heard anything about him leaving the embassy, but there was this again:
It seems they are leaning on the justice for Assange stuff more heavily which doesn’t seem to show interest in Assange’s declaration.
Oh, and they did post this too (just to continue to throw shade):
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I don’t think Trump cares about Snowden.
Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone unless they can offer him he can use. Snowden has nothing to offer him, nothing his base is interested in either so Trump helping him out seems like a non-starter.
Sure, but WWII was the one time in history when the US and the USSR were ostensibly on the same side.
I’m also pretty sure that the US’ reaction to the Russian Revolution was mostly fear that the same thing could happen in the US, rather than fear of the USSR as a nation state. Hence Schenck v. the US, the conviction of Eugene V. Debs on sedition charges, etc. We were concerned about threats from the inside as well as the outside. McCarthyism etc. Whenever something threatens the existing power structure in even the slightest way, people scream “Commie Pinko Marxist rabblerabblerabble” and shout it down rather than addressing the problems honestly.
None of which negates my original comment, which was that we have long held the Russians in animosity since the revolution and that tensions with them predate the current era.
Or revenge for Lenin leaking documents about secret treaties, maybe?
I think to say that anti-communism only or primarily relates to internal politics, misses the fact that even when we were pretty insular, our government still had an eye out on the world. Interwar relations were fraught and fragile, across the board, and the US was loathed to put it’s head out, primarily because of the Nye report.
You’re definitely correct that it’s nothing new. Prussia and other defunct nations if you go past WWI, and that region (like the Middle East) has long had high tensions both internally and across it’s borders. Yes, i know Prussia became part of Germany but i’m talking about constantly changing nation states in that part of the world.
Past WW2 it was just easier to point a finger at that part of the world and sell the “FEAR THE COMMIE HOARD” narrative.
I remember reading that Americans who where Communists before the war, were designated, “Prematurely Anti-Fascist” during the hostilities.
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If Assange did turn himself in to the Americans, I’m sure he would regret it; maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but, soon, and for the rest of his life.
It’s like there is a politically correct time to be anti-fascist and a politically correct time to be pro-fascist.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/premature_antifascist
It’s just as terrifying as it sounds. The US had stronger ties to Nazi Germany than we pretend it did today.
So, I haven’t read this, so I can’t vouch for it, but this looks like it addresses the question of anti-communism in the US in the interwar period - Little Red Scares:
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/1730
And I have read this book (a while and probably a couple of hundred books ago) and it does address the transnational dimensions of socialism/communism as a movement and domestic concerns about it, vis-a-vis the civil rights movement in the interwar period. I do highly recommend it:
Glad I didn’t spend the past decade of my life in school for nothing! 
I wasn’t trying to argue with you.
I had to reword my initial comment before i posted because it sounded like i was mansplaining you while still agreeing. Hope it still didn’t come across that way.
Okay. Sorry. then I’m unsure why you noted that the US and Soviets were allies. Did you think I wasn’t aware of that or that it indeed negated my larger point?
Not really… I was mostly joking…
It was because you said this:
I was taking issue with the timeline. My parents were born when the US and USSR were relatively friendly with one another. McCarthyism wouldn’t come along for another decade. 60 years ago, but I wouldn’t say long before any of us or our parents were born.
I was also unsure of the dynamics of US/USSR relations before WWII. I wasn’t sure if US/USSR tensions dramatically increased after WWII or if they just continued from where they started.
My grandparents were Austro-Hungarian subjects, but maybe relations between the US and the Russian Empire were as bad as they were with the USSR. I’m really not sure.
So your parents were born during the war itself? I’d say that even there, the relations were somewhat strained and the cracks showed pretty quickly after FDRs death. but yes, it’s a time of closer relations for sure. Same during the famine years in the 1920s after the revolution.
That was my point about decades ago, the period prior to WW2 had strained relations and the US had a strong anti-communist bent. I would say that relations over the whole century were up and down for the entire 100 year period. You can even point to the Cold War era as not being consistent (detente, when relations were warming up).
I don’t think so about our relations with the Russian empire, but the US was much less of a world player in Europe during the prewar period. We tended to focus more on the pacific, caribbean, and Latin American prior to the first world war (although we sent people into the middle east/ottoman empire at this time, but mostly missionaries went, but it was hard to disentangle US policy from these missions).
