I couldn’t help it…
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Thanks for saying what I was too frothy to say. I was rereading the rest of the thread to reassure myself that this was a freak anomaly, then yes, I spent some time on http://www.lovemeow.com/ Now I am the Buddha.
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That last debate was the tercio de muerte.
Yep. You can hate this sort of bullfighting, yet appreciate the grace and artistry, and award Hilary both ears and the tail. I guess you will need some sort of ability to keep your head in face-to-face meetings if you are to govern, but there are other good qualities you could be selected on too.
I wonder when democracy 3.0 will come out. They ought to be able to fix stuff like this.
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I follow the logic. I think that way myself. However, this could describe President Carter for the USA, and John Major for the UK. Both got into office partly as a reaction to the previous candidate, and neither were a great success.
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Thanks to Antonin Scalia (Citizens United), it is now the law in the US that the only kind of corruption that exists is quid pro quo corruption. An entity gives millions of dollars to a politician, and that politician happens to act often on that entity’s behalf but there’s no proof of a specific exchange? Not corruption.
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And thanks to McDonnell v United States (all of 'em), you pretty much need to find a contract signed in blood in order to get a conviction even for that.
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Trump’s speech was hilariously awful. 14:00 in, when he says “…pretending not to hate Catholics” is clear that he’s lost the whole damn crowd. Then he goes into “some of you may have noticed that Hillary hasn’t been laughing as much as the rest of us…” Dude, nobody’s laughing. Nobody. Your speech is whiny and petulant and you’re delivering it like a little kid learning to read.
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I didn’t watch the debates and have been avoiding the news, so when I saw the thread title I was hoping it was a bit more literal. Trump breaking down into an incoherent, profanity-filled monologue, hot tears causing his orange spray tan to run into pools on the floor, slowly sinking to his knees, paramedics arriving to escort him to Arkham Asylum. Or something like that.
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Well said! And try to consider exactly how many of those fucken guys she’s had to deal with, and not just American douchebags, but Heads of State douchebags likely with a not-insignificant number exactly like our current orange blowhard douchebag. Anyone having to deal with that crowd for very long without starting WW3,4,5 or at the very least hurling one of the many bottles of 30 year old scotch off a Davos balcony out of sheer spite and rage deserves a little respect.
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I agree that she is doing well and I also agree with your point about her being flawed but of course we all are. It’s undeniable that she doesn’t have the full trust of her supporters and that many of them are voting against Trump just as many are going to be voting against Clinton. I can’t pin it on one thing, but if there is a nexus of concern over Clinton it’s that she seems to be difficult to trust for many people. Pick your reason.
I regret how the primary coverage framed her opponent Bernie as being out of touch and unelectable and how it was embarrassingly obvious that the DNC clearly had an agenda. If there was one quality that Bernie had going for him it would be, in my view, his ability to gain the trust of his supporters. The same cannot be said for either remaining candidate. As a non-partisan, I don’t have a party of choice and I suppose I’m like many of people voting for either Donald or Hillary who will be holding their nose and casting what they hope is the right vote. That’s a sad state of affairs in my view. For me, it will be a vote of conscious which will upset partisans with an agenda. I’ll write in a name. The Republicans are running with a horrible person and the democrats who have had 8 years already lost me during the primaries. I suppose for me, Hillary didn’t so much loose my vote as did the party under which she is running.
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Bullfighting is the perfect metaphor for what she did. She enraged him, got him to charge at nothing, and let him run himself into the ground.
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This thread is getting a little heated, yeah?
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Here’s another apt metaphor:
Wrong candidate though. Those were simpler times, when talking about the 47% was some kind of huge controversy or something.
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Tiffany looks a little scootenfrooty. 
Too bad she had to endure the kiss this time. I wonder if it was a bribe, threat, or combo to make her submit to that? And good on her for not wearing something skin tight.
I can’t imagine how hard it must be to be her. Shackled to Trump for life, when even her mother could get away? Ugh.
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But Hillary is pro-choice.
I guess that tells us how horrible Donald really is: the Catholic Church couldn’t bear to have him at the podium all alone, so they had to allow a pro-choice feminist woman.
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He managed to get noticeably more boos at a Catholic institutional event than a fierce pro-choice advocate. That’s amazing.
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They did disinvite Bill in 96 over a pro-choice issue, apparently.
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Heh: well said, that person.
Two months ago, many on this group were flaming Hilary, and canonizing Bernie S. A recent report connected how people who shout at their TV bond with their sports team; while those of us who think that shouting at the screen reporting a recorded event is a bit silly, do not. I suspect it is much the same here: once the bond is established, the crowd instinct takes over. If you are not a crowd person, it just looks weird.
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