Seems like level 4 should be “Clear” or “Operating Thetan” 
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Make sure you’re properly dressed before rendering assistance
I see these comments as signifiers – I’ll leave it at that.
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I always applied that rule to my IT project estimates. It works.
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Comcast should have had guys flagging well up the road. The man who made the video put out some of his own road markers but flaggers would have made a big difference.
Expense control requires the minimum crew possible for any service work. All about those margins for shareholders and upper manglement profit-sharing. Private monopolies at work!
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And you have no proof anything the driver could do would help. Again, the person filming the video had cones up before the black truck unless he edited the video pretty heavily. And no, the driver doesn’t need to try to risk his well being more than he was already working on the damn cable box. The expectation isn’t “go above and beyond in all pursuits in life or get fired and have the internet hate you.” He put out his cones, a bystander put out his cones, people still caused accidents from driving unsafely in poor conditions, and outside of removing the impediment to traffic there is literally no way to mitigate what happened. So Comcast should have a logistics solution to unsafe situations.
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Six cars piling up is solid empirical evidence of a lack of safety not a “gut feeling”.
[/quote]Yeah, you sure showed me proving that the road conditions sucked and the driver should have packed up and left. It’s almost like that would have solved everything instead of Comcast… I don’t know sending another driver to the same scene.
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Just ignore that pile of wrecked cars behind the Comcast truck. They are professionals who must be presumed to be following company policy. Policy. You can’t question policy. Therefore everything they do is unquestionably correct. QED.
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[/quote]This is literally the opposite of what I’m advocating, but you are blaming the lowest rank on the food chain for the decisions his boss and the next few bosses up made. This entire situation could have been avoided by a number of factors, the biggest one is not whether even more cones placed in a magic order.
The policy is wrong so blame the fucking policy. If you are questioning public safety, then where are all the public safety institutions? Oh yeah, they got cut to put enough cash in the bank for Carrier to fuck the government over. But, yeah, it’s all the fault of a guy that drives the truck past six cars in a ditch to work on a cable box.
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You’ve repeated your argument. You are arguing that there is nothing the driver could have done to helped. That may or may not be true and neither of us know it, but that is fully beside the point @Skeptic and I (and other mutants) are making. We are saying: The guy is at least partly to blame for the accidents, and refuses to explore ANY options for helping, and that is a total dick move.
Why do you think he should not be helpful here? Your statement was, “He has no business helping…”
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I guess they need some Solar Freaking Roadways, right? 
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Your solution does not work. It might work for like 10 minutes. But eventually, the guy will have to go home, go to work, or whatever. He cannot be following that comcast crew for the rest of winter. And when he leaves, 10 minutes later, or 2 hours later, the accidents will start up somewhere else again. This is why he worked so hard to get the crew to to not be such dumb idiots. Eventually, a big truck or bus would come along, bang into their truck, and the guy in the bucket will get killed.
As an aside, I can’t help but laugh at what Midwesterners consider “hills”.
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Don’t you guys have these over there?
One of these would be best, on the crest, in the lane.
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Just the same, if they waited until 6:15 when the Spin Pizza crew buzzed by, I’d have been more thrilled. Have to mix in white light flares, though.
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I don’t know the traffic control laws in Indiana (?), but that is likely not legally required in a 40 mph zone.
Likely against company policy to use personal property, even with permission, unless the work is on that property, due to liability. Around here, Bell will put cones around their vans even if they are in a parking lot.
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This guy wins 2016, and that’s not a complement.
“This is a dangerous situation, and if you don’t take more precautions, the thing is going to happen!”
“Don’t worry, enough safeguards are in place and nothing serious will happen”
“Look, the thing is starting to happen! You have to do something!”
“I’m just doing my job, and I refuse to believe that my actions have any negative effect on those around me.”
“Look, the thing is now out of control, like I said it would be!”
“This is your fault.”
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Roadrunner cartoons were educational, Wile E. Coyote frequently demonstrated the downside of doing something as fast as you could without considering what might be up ahead.
The British Highway Code makes clear that it is a legal requirement to drive within the distance you can see to be safe, so accelerating up an icy hill in the hope that there is nothing at the top makes you liable. Is this not true in the US?
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I live in Canada where the show goes on even if we get 8 inches of snow over-night. You have to drive defensively and be able to stop safely.
The road looked pretty bad and there is a hill obstructing lookahead, but it’s still on the driver to control their vehicle. Sometimes, a stretch of road becomes unnavigable due to ice. That is on the municipality that failed to ice the road at the right time.
All that said, a wellplaced cone, visible before crresting the hill, while morally praiseworthy, is not likely legally obligatory
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I am very sad that I lost my collection of the 40-odd classical episodes. the total lenght was about 4 hours or so, totally consumable in one sitting. side effect: speech capability is heavily degraded for about a week *meep* *meep*
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I did some reading and it appears that Comcast has trained their drivers to not use the proper signs, cone placement, and personnel based on the driver’s responses in the video (what he smugly says is the rule is not actually the rule unless there is a local roadwork ordinance he’s quoting). This has been muddied by INDOT washing their hands of the incident and pushing the problem to quote “someone else” because they don’t deal with local roadwork apparently.
Meanwhile federal regulators have gotten involved out of OSHA concerns. The Indiana department of labor is currently doing an investigation to see if there was a violation of workplace and public safety requirements.
According to the local code for highways there should have been a flagger on the scene and a big ass sign on the hill, the amount of cones was fine - but should have been placed further apart, and it is unclear if prior approval was needed or not to block one lane of a two lane road.
Just figured I’d give an update based on this morning’s news.
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Oh, and the police said it both wasn’t illegal and the road incidents were not something they look into.
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Probably because there wasn’t significant property damage or personal injury for the police to actually get involved. But closing a lane on a 2 lane street under poor weather, and with clear disregard for traffic safety it seems that it would be an issue that the police or state troopers would need to get involved in.
Edit: I also meant to add, pretty great follow up/update. Highly appreciated.
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