Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 2)

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They’ve got to do better with the courts, too:

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Health equity? Is Oregon not going to vaccinate people based on science and if so will the government be responsible for any deaths due to covid of anyone in obvious greater danger pushed back because they were not the correct color or class? This sounds absolutely anti science to me. I hope all they mean is that they will set up testing and vaccination closest to people who, due to their economic status, can’t receive the vaccine due to transportation and geographic economic diss parity.

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Whut?

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At least that sign was (presumably) temporary.

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Around here they just pose as assholes.

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It’s right there, in the goal section. They’re going to reach out to groups, who have been historically excluded, to ensure that they are included. Why do you feel that this is so offensive?

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Because I am seeing multiple cases of covid vaccine orders ignoring science and this one could end up doing this as well. When healthy young teachers are vaccinated before massively more at risk elderly, for example:

She can rationalize all she wants, every old person who dies of covid in Oregon thereafter is blood on her hands.

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You don’t want to ignore science and lots of things could, but health equity literally means they are going to make sure they don’t inadvertently exclude people based on color or class, as tends to happen when you don’t put in any effort not to. Interesting that you should read it the exact opposite way. :unamused:

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The city commissioners were earning their salary that day. :laughing:

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First, this isn’t what you posted above.

Now that you’ve moved the goalposts…

If the goal is to get students back into the classroom, teachers will need to be vaccinated. It isn’t fair for parents or TPTB to decide that the risk for teachers is minimal. (There have been teacher Covid-19 deaths thus far.)

What blood is on her hands? Someone who is retired can wait it out until vaccinations are available before moving around the community. Both my husband and I have been socially isolated since March 19 and have worked from home. Many teachers don’t have that luxury and are required to go into the classrooms.

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It is not that simple. There are a ton of considerations that go beyond simply “elders first.” As long as the supply of vaccines is limited, hard decisions will have to be made, and choosing to vaccinate teachers or grocery store workers prior to some categories of older folks is a legitimate decision. Like any decision, it can be questioned, and is probably not perfect, but still absolutely needs to be made. Risk of acquisition of virus has to be balanced against risk of poor outcome. I am glad I don’t have to make that choice!

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I guess if you make up the talking points and the science, you can say whatever you want as long as you link to something. Doesn’t really make your argument stronger or make sense.

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What medical science based considerations make the decision to vaccinate people who are exponetially safer from covid before the most vulnerable? It is not a hard choice. Covid is a disease, you vaccinate those most likely to die from it first, then next most likely, etc, etc. what medical fact am I missing here?