They thought they could make a bubble like the NBA did. Everyone had to test negative within a few days before boarding, and then again on day of boarding, passengers and crew. And they weren’t going to make any land stops.
Once they found a positive test, they handed out masks and kept everyone in their rooms, switching to meal delivery instead of restaurant style.
I understand your frustration, it seems needlessly reckless to even try, but it does sound like they were and are following best practices, insomuch as anything cruise related can be considered a best practice.
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This is the core of the problem. The best practice is to stay away from other people, and too many people refuse to do it. I saw a comment yesterday about solving things with a 2-3 month lockdown. We’re dealing with people who won’t follow that plan for 2 days.
All of these anti-mask folks who were raving about their rights and freedoms being taken away might’ve been doing a great job of projection. This might be an enforcement step that has to be taken. Of course, this will give them actual ammunition in their war against science, common sense, & big government.
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Strong disagree. The only “best practice” in the current situation is to not lock a large group of people into an inescapable tin can with virtually no possibility of meaningful social distancing. Period. The evidence is pretty conclusive that “best practices” do not work. In the immortal words of Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No” to cruise lines. If they go under (unintentional, but I will take it) so be it. It is not work kindling more flames to feed to ongoing conflagration. We do not have the spare medical capacity to deal with them.
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Stay safe, folks. Whatever your medical issues are, take extra care managing them, get your flu shots, take good care of yourself. There is no spare medical capacity, and we need to do whatever we can to take pressure off of the system.
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Yeah, thought of you when they started talking about the issues in GA. But this time it is really wide spread, and the option of moving nurses and docs for where it ain’t to where it is just is not really there. Field hospitals and such are great but if you can’t staff them, it’s not very helpful.
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My bffs bro-in-law works at emory (he used to do double shifts over at grady, too, though he stopped doing that last year). I’ll have to ask her what he’s saying about the current situation here in the ATL specifically with regards to ICU beds. Grady tends to be pretty good about dealing with emergency situations, but the nursing shortage seems like a huge problem.
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Don’t know about down there, but up here, between nurses (and providers, but that seems less of an issue. Nursing is still large majority women. Funny how that works out, eh?) needing more time for kids due to school closures and nurses getting sick, stressed out and developing some serious anxiety/depression conditions, our nursing is at the skeleton crew, just barely getting by, like in if someone call in or is late, it is a major staffing crisis. And it is going to get worse. VA is not seeing the spike that some are, just a slow, steady rise. It is much worse elsewhere.
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I’ll have to ask her what he’s saying about the current situation here in the ATL specifically with regards to ICU beds.
…and we all know how well Atlanta handled that 2010 “zombie apocalypse” thing… 
We’re dealing with a little bombshell revelation in Ontario 
. Seems Doug Ford’s conservatives pushed up their thresholds for lockdown to 4 times the levels the health panel recommended. He’s been out banging the “open for business” drum.
Just when we thought we could give Premier Ford a pass on being an adequately competent politician…
Edit: I’ll go out on a limb here and speculate that Mr. Ford skipped the Grade 8 math class where they covered “exponentials”…
Messaging has been really uneven of late, Toronto’s public officer of health comes over very wishy-washy on the radio and the messaging around Thanksgiving last month was very “we think it’s a good idea… we know it’s inconvenient… but… contemplate not getting together”. Mississauga mayor Bonnie Crombie shut us down here last week, rather firmly.
Seems we have already forgotten that even the Pope cancelled Easter this year.
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Or even if we ignore everything else, what about previous quarantines and lockdowns? This isn’t the first epidemic / pandemic that has hit America, after all.
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Healthcare workers of color have been hit particularly hard. I’ve heard about people quitting rather than put their families at risk. Frontline workers and their challenges so far during the pandemic are in the report below.
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I mentioned a couple days ago, we have passed an very sad milestone. We have had more nurses die of Covid than died in all of WWII combat. Disproportionately women of color, as you mentioned. I admit I get irritated at the “Healthcare Heroes” crap that goes around, because in my mind that translates as “we really appreciate you dying for the cause.” We are not in this to “die for the cause” dammit.
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Right? You think healthcare workers like nurses are heroes? Great! Order a nationwide lockdown to help contain the virus!
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We really need another relief bill to support people and small businesses while we do a short national lockdown to get this under control. Immediately.
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Yes! Exactly. We won’t get it thanks to that raging asshole Mitch McConnell, of course. God I hate that man… I think I hate him more than Trump, actually.
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“Genius man should know that the PCR tests do have a high false negative rate, but not a high false positive one. Elon’s been on the “this is all a bit of a scam” boat even after his brilliant predictions. He’d take a sharpie to a hurricane map, too, to somehow prove himself fucking right.”
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Didn’t find the quote in this thread, but I think you mean WWI: which is an order of magnitude or two higher than WWII.
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