Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 4)

First time in years someone at the grocery store made an effort to get a photo of my wife and daughter wearing their masks.

Somewhere on reddit or Facebook or Instagram or somewhere, is probably a post mocking them.

Funny stuff.

10 Likes

New Hampshire is competing for the stupid award currently held by Florida.

Proof of routine childhood vaccinations would no longer be required before kids are enrolled in child care, under a bill being considered by New Hampshire lawmakers.

That includes Polio and Measles.

Idiots

12 Likes

Updates on trials for next generation and pan vaccines:

9 Likes
10 Likes
8 Likes

I understand the science and what they’re finding and why it’s still safe but it doesn’t keep my germaphobia brain from thinking too long about it.

4 Likes

8 Likes

Watching the press conference today.

Yay, one person in the room.

5 Likes

See, now this is how you do a fine. More would’ve been good, but this is a start.

14 Likes

The comments people made while responding are funny but it’s more sad than funny.

6 Likes
7 Likes

Hope to see more of this soon:

:crossed_fingers:t4:

16 Likes
8 Likes

One of the replies really rings true.

14 Likes

I think it is the very core of this neocon/reactionary global movement. The lack of love/empathy entrained in the spirit of these people is sheer scary. Sometimes I think they can’t see anyone happy, just living their lives, without feeling a rush of hate taking over their bodies.

12 Likes

Just the term “vaccine injuries” is promoting anti-science. What a Douthbag!

11 Likes
8 Likes

Fucking Sherri Tenpenny. Fucking Ohio. Fucking stupid timeline. So much for consequences for stupid, dangerous actions.

disney rage GIF

18 Likes

While I appreciate a revival of a little discussion on measures that were taken and lessons to learn, I choked on my coffee when I read the discussion around school closures:

We now have solid evidence showing that was an overreaction. A study at McMaster University concluded that closing schools had “not much impact” on transmission because young kids rarely spread the disease. U.S. studies have found the same thing. Let’s not make that mistake again.

I dug out the study cited in the article and found the NYT article that was referenced and the other survey study. From the first study:

Secondary attack rates were low within school settings when infection prevention and control measures were in place (moderate certainty). Masks might reduce transmission, test-to-stay policies might not increase transmission risk compared with mandatory quarantine, cohorting and hybrid learning might make little to no difference in transmission (low certainty), and the effect of surveillance testing within schools remained inconclusive (very low certainty). Findings indicate that school settings do not substantially contribute to community incidence, hospitalisations, or mortality (low certainty).

I’d imagine the picture would be different around community settings that are more careful, and using the metrics of hospitalization and mortality w.r.t. kids raises a red flag for me. In my experience, the kids were better behaved than most adults when it came to masking, but how many schools really did what (little) was required to filter air?

And from the study cited by the NYT:

There are few data available from the literature on coronavirus outbreaks to guide countries on the use of school closures or other school social distancing practices during the COVID-19 pandemic. Available evidence is consistent with a broad range of impacts of school closures, from little effect on reducing transmission through to more substantial effects.

So really, we do not have that much of an idea whether school closures “worked”, and no idea what the next pandemic is going to look like anyhow. If it turns out to be something with high asymptomatic transmission and just enough nasty outcomes, like :thinking: polio, then I’d wager school closures will be back on the table promptly.

11 Likes

Not being able to cite exactly which measure were effective does not counterargue that the whole suite was, in fact, effective. As we look at potentially a new outbreak of a much more dangerous virus (avian flu) the fact that we refuse to learn from the “warm up act” is incredibly depressing.

12 Likes