I’ve been looking for a new girlfriend, a woman who really has it together… she seems PERFECT !
First, let’s agree that the National Enquirer said that some guy said that this happened is not quality evidence (given it’s the Enquirer I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the person they quoted never even said that or that they don’t exist), so this case is a pretty bad one to argue from.
But let’s say Haim was alive to tell us this, or multiple people who knew Haim at the time confirmed he told them this. Sheen is in a business where what people think of you matters. If another actor didn’t want to work with him then the people making the movie/show/whatever would have to make a decision. If audiences didn’t want to see films he was in then it wouldn’t make sense to make films with him.
There’s a problem with this: you are asking about what a just outcome would be, and I’m talking about mechanistic outcome of market forces. Capitalism doesn’t lean towards justice. The exact same process could exclude people from films for being gay, for being black, etc (and this isn’t really hypothetical, this has happened). The mechanism is utterly amoral, it reveals the underlying morals of the society. People are excluded for being black because the society is racist (and to be sure I’m not unclear, the people actually making the decision of “I can’t hire a black actor because no one will watch my movie” are part of that society and participating in that racism). A society that excludes people from movies because they are have been accused of sexually abusing a 13-year-old is a society that’s got a problem with people who have been accused of sexually abusing 13-year-olds (a sex-offencist society?).
Another issue is that when you take someone who has committed offenses and lock them out of society - take away their job, make it hard for them to find a home, you make it more likely that they will reoffend. I think we make ourselves less safe by doing these things. Right now employment and housing are shaped by those amoral, mechanistic market forces, though. Given the abundance we live in, I think a just outcome would be that everyone have a home and no one go hungry, but since we don’t do that, I think an important factor in thinking about this kind of outcome is how secure the person is. In Sheen’s case, he could be shut out of Hollywood completely and he wouldn’t go hungry or homeless (unless he went homeless due to a mental health problem that is completely beyond the issue of blacklist or no blacklist). Movie stars are in a very privileged position where we don’t have to worry so much about the personal outcomes for them.
My thinking is to always think about what’s best for the victim. If we ask, “Should Alice fire Bob because they found out Bob has been beating up his kid?” I’d say, “That sounds like it might well Bob’s kid at increased danger, there needs to be some other intervention.” But should Sheen be blacklisted because he’s been accused of raping Corey Haim? It’s not going to make a difference to Haim. People should choose for themselves if they want to work with Sheen and if they want to see his movies without, I think, putting too much thought into how fair that is to Sheen.
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Being against child molestation isn’t being sexually repressed.
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via MovieWeb
"Well let me be very clear. The man at the end of this bread crumb trail, the coveted name A lister everybody wants to know about has, & does continue to threaten his victims with death. It’s actually his go to statement. Anyone that knows who I am talking about can find multiple court records in which defendants have claimed that they feared for their safety after confronting him. Point blank, he threatens people’s lives and has a history of violent behavior." C. Feldman
“While Corey Feldman does not mention the “A-lister” by name, it’s not hard to deduce that he could be talking directly about Charlie Sheen, and it’s probably no coincidence that these stories are breaking at the same time. A cursory Google search of Charlie Sheen and death threats comes up with over 326,000 results in under a minute. There are stories of death threats as recently as last year, after alleged audio surfaced of Sheen offering someone $20,000 dollars to kill his ex-fiancee. Further down the rabbit hole and you’ll see that Sheen threatened to kill an ex-associate with an automatic shotgun and even threatening to cut Denise Richards’ head off. These are threats that anybody can see with a quick search and it’s no wonder why Corey Feldman is choosing his words carefully. It’s also no wonder why everyone is going directly to Charlie Sheen as the person Feldman is referring to in his open letter”
Hmmmmm
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Sometimes, they actually get shit right:
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Well thought out reply. Thanks.
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Wait up. Hasn’t Sheen been diagnosed HIV positive? When did that happen, and when did he contract the virus, if the diagnosis is correct? I ask this not from a ‘zomg he’s got AIDS!!!1!!!’ point of view but from a ‘jesus christ, he was a carrier and yet raped a child?’ stance. If he was at the time of the rape, then that adds a whole other level of reprehensible, unforgivable horror to the situation, I think.
He could (and maybe has).
A carrot cannot give consent.
Reminder that the “crowd motivated by sexual repression” is people against adults having sexual relations with children.
I suggest not editing this post unless you can give us a public reason as to why you want to hide wombat34’s statement, orenwolf.
And this is an interesting response:
orenwolf edited my post per my feed which is completely unrelated to the original post being pruned, curious that another person would claim that my post was edited by the system when it blatantly wasn’t.
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It may not have been for many years, but it has been almost a decade (I believe). It became public during the “Winning” phase when he was feuding with Denise Richards, the Two and a Half Men producers, and just about anyone else. After the fact, one of his live-in girlfriends during this period was particularly upset that he hadn’t disclosed his status, and it was also resurrecting a period of her life she was trying to put behind her.
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Maybe he was taken with Jim’s beautiful singing voice?
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The carrot was provocatively dressed!
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I do know that by age 14 a lot of girls in my class were sexually active, and most had boyfriends in the 16-18 range (because most 14 year old boys were fugly with acne I guess).
Yeah right. When you’re 14 and your 13 year old (half a year your junior) neighbor girl (which you have a secret crush on) is gushing about her adorable new boyfriend. And they look very happy together. Of course I thought ‘isn’t he a bit old’., but she was very happy with him.
@heh I am quickly coming to the conclusion that all pubescent children need to be evacuated from wherever the hell it is you’re from.
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Thank you. Sweet shit. I’m perfectly willing to believe anything in the article, or even the comments (if well supported by fact), but how the fuck can I trust anything on this site if the sources now include the National Enquirer?
It’s more tabloid-level fodder, but for what it’s worth, Corey Haim’s mother denies that he was ever molested by Charlie Sheen — her reasoning being that she was on-set with him pretty much constantly and would’ve been aware if he had snuck into a dark part of the set to be butt-raped.
My molester had me in a bedroom touching his erect penis at the grandparent’s house, with 6 fully-awake family members (grandparents, parents, siblings) only 20 feet away.
Where there’s a will there’s a way.
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Just click on your user avatar:
Or did I miss a /s?
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It wasn’t @orenwolf, it’s been flagged by the community one too many times and is pending review by an admin.
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