Ah, you were referring to civil cases (reading comprehension fail on my part) but the same applies – it’s very likely that the statute of limitations has run out on these (at least for the assault) – but I could definitely see some suits being filed for defamation for the smear job against many of these women.
I hope they do sue, and win.
That won’t happen. The crimes were against the State so presidential pardon power doesn’t apply.
The TV show has zero bearing on Cosby’s guilt. He belongs in prison and he should have been there decades ago.
That is not the same as saying the TV show didn’t carry cultural importance in its time. Representation matters, and millions of black kids being able to see someone who looked like them playing a respected doctor or lawyer was nothing to scoff at. It was almost something akin to when MLK’s daughter saw Nichelle Nichols playing Lt. Uhura in Star Trek and excitedly told her parents “Theres a black lady on TV and she ain’t no maid!”
Knowing what we now know about Cosby (and honestly, what we should have all known for a very long time) I have zero desire to watch anything he touched ever again. It’s ruined forever. But saying it never mattered would be rewriting history.
Well, that’s perverse. “Speedy trial” refers to the time between arrest and your court date. Saying statutes of limitations violate a defendant’s right to a speedy trial is like saying the system harmed the defendant by not arresting him quickly enough.
History was rewritten. Everyone realizes they had a reverence for serial rapist.
Maybe everyone should take advantage of this knowledge, assess how they look celebrities, and find a way to provide better heros and models for our children. That is, instead of deffending a clearly fucked up situation.
I don’t know enough about this particular circumstance to even begin to talk about it, just sharing what i found because i found it equally strange.
Which claim amongst the many I made?
Btw- I don’t remember The Cosby Show fondly, those decades were not kind to me; I’m not a fanboy; Bill Cosby and most all heterosexual respectability politicians are creepy as all get-go. Yet, nevertheless audience members (voluntary or no) are perfectly qualified to analyze popular culture- as we are the ones who re/create it.
(Especially if you’re a man ) it’s easy to think that Bill Cosby and Bill Cosby alone was the show, but actually there were a number of black actors, writers, workers who created something that made other things change -in some cases even for the better and that’s why it’s worth considering.
No doubt that would be statistically likely. On the other hand, people in the US who have the means to afford really great health care tend to last longer than most. Let’s say that if he’s still kicking when his appeals have run their course, he might decide on a really, really long voluntary snooze.
Yeah, about that…
Who in this thread do you think is defending Cosby?
I think this is why they tried so hard to get his bail revoked. Unfortunately, the judge denied that request.
This, 100%.
I don’t see anyone here defending Cosby or anything he did. Nor do i think anyone is equivocating their discomfort and frustration over losing their love for his work with the pain of his victims, or wishing his abuses had never come to light so that they could continue to enjoy his work in blissful ignorance. I certainly take your point that his work isn’t relevant to his guilt, but it is relevant to people’s perceptions of him. If anything, some people are using this thread to come to terms with the gaping disparity between their appreciation of his work and their (rightful) revulsion at his actions. That’s not defending a fucked up situation, it’s doing exactly what you’re saying they should be doing.
Short of having perfect knowledge of a person before they become famous enough to be a role model, I don’t think it’s possible to elevate someone to that status without there being a possibility that they’re secretly a monstrous person. If there’s one thing I hope the #MeToo movement does, it’s make it easier to bring those secrets out of the shadows before those shitty people ensconce themselves in positions of power and fame, and make it easier for them to face consequences if they do. Cosby’s conviction is a good step along that path.
I think you’re 100% right about that!
One of the hard parts about supporting #MeToo movement, is being consistent even when the perpetrators are people we like or admired
Do you think that books about the US presidents will someday skip right from Ike to LBJ?
No, for the same reason we don’t skip Andrew Jackson because of his genocidal actions against the Native Americans. History exists to learn from it.
Also, the last time I checked (about five minutes ago) you could still buy Gary Glitter albums in the UK.
From 1997, he returned to public notice for committing sex offences, being imprisoned for downloading child pornography in 1999, and child sexual abuse and attempted rape in 2006 and 2015.
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