Creationist theme park wants $18m tax incentive, only hires fundamentalists

Hate to break it to you, but I can say that in Veterinary school, I definitely knew “bible thumping vet students” (who ended up graduating and being licensed). Never could wrap my brain around the cognitive dissonance required to be a fundamentalist of any sort of religion and a career scientist…

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If you believe the hype, there was a complete intersection between the two at one point! Actually, the link between engineering and creationism is strong enough to have attracted some comment and its own theory.

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I’ve seen this phenomenon most frequently among mechanical engineers and industrial engineers. Once they take Thermo, they think they’ve got the whole God-thing figured out via the 2nd law of conservation of energy. Ridiculous, I know.

But back to Jorpho’s comment, yeah, there’s going to be plenty of ME’s with building specialties available to choose from if the pay is commensurate to open market rates.

I went to a university where it was well-known that if you wanted to find professors who believed in evolution you had to go to the religion department. The biology department was run by Biblical literalists. That still amazes me. Also in my defense I’ll add that I didn’t learn this well-known fact until well into my freshman year.

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He was supposed to reward you for the private show…

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If they want to be a non-profit educational foundation, or a church, I’m fine with them being non-taxed (and absolutely opposed to the state giving them actual cash.)

On the other hand, if they’re attempting to be a profit-making business, they’re a business, not a religious/educational organization, and no tax break for them. Somebody ought to tell those right-wing red-staters that having the state give people money like that is Socialism, and they should stop it.

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Just to add more twists to things, who says that God didn’t kick off the Big Bang? Not saying that I believe that is the case, but nobody knows what did cause it. I’m just doing my best to keep an open mind.
Is there even a theory about the cause?
How likely is the possibility that we’re all part of some sort of computer-like simulation?
Perhaps there are some other dimensional Good Samaritan types who go around creating whole universes?
Maybe there is a single Supreme Being that is so Intelligent that He planned every little thing down to the quantum level and for everything to continue on its own until we discover the answers?
Maybe a different universe was completely consumed by all its black holes, which coalesced into a single Singularity and become so compressed that it turned itself inside out?

The people who designed the Ark Encounter don’t particularly care for your level of theological abstraction.

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The people who designed the Ark Encounter don’t particularly care for your level of theological abstraction.

I know :slight_smile: And they aren’t likely to read Boing Boing either.

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I think the universe was created by some scientist working in a LHC style facility who accidentally triggered a singularity and our own universe. While that technically makes them God, they were also a moron who destroyed their own universe and themselves in the process. Interestingly enough, this makes me agnostic on whether I am a monotheist or polytheist.

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Pffft. Their cognitive dissonance is like a shield of steel.

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If you’re a polytheist, does that mean it was created by committee? Well, fuck.

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This would actually explain a lot…

Holy crap? It isn’t just me? I didn’t know anyone else noticed that a lot of the time, people trying to back up their religious creationist arguments with scientific credentials were usually engineers of some kind. Usually their credentials have nothing to do with anything about biology, evolution, or even organic chemistry.

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Is there even a theory about the cause?

Yes, there are a few (all wikipedia links)

How likely is the possibility that we're all part of some sort of computer-like simulation?
My guess is that there's no way to tell. A few people have proposed looking for hallmarks of digital quantization on very large scales, but even if they exist, it wouldn't be proof of our universe being simulated.
Perhaps there are some other dimensional Good Samaritan types who go around creating whole universes?
Why should one assume such a conclusion when we have no way of testing or assessing the plausibility of the claim?
Maybe there is a single Supreme Being that is so Intelligent that He planned every little thing down to the quantum level and for everything to continue on its own until we discover the answers?
Why call such a being a god? Sure he created it, but once everything is set in motion, it's completely hands-off, which means whether it exists in any sense today has no bearing on our future lives, and we can live as if this creator doesn't anyway.
Maybe a different universe was completely consumed by all its black holes, which coalesced into a single Singularity and become so compressed that it turned itself inside out?
Interesting idea. If you'd flesh it out, I'd be interested in hearing how it works :smiley:

“Perhaps there are some other dimensional Good Samaritan types who go around creating whole universes?”

Why should one assume such a conclusion when we have no way of testing or assessing the plausibility of the claim?

And why should we assume that such a thing is not possible? Just because we cannot test or assess such a possibility does not mean that it isn’t so. It only means that our capabilities of conducting such tests and making such assessments are not yet possible. As for whether we will ever be able to do so, that is almost impossible to answer.

“Maybe there is a single Supreme Being that is so Intelligent that He planned every little thing down to the quantum level and for everything to continue on its own until we discover the answers?”

Why call such a being a god? Sure he created it, but once everything
is set in motion, it’s completely hands-off, which means whether it
exists in any sense today has no bearing on our future lives, and we can
live as if this creator doesn’t anyway.

Well, any label will do. How about calling such a being Bob, instead?

“Maybe a different universe was completely consumed by all its black holes, which coalesced into a single Singularity and become so compressed that it turned itself inside out?”

Interesting idea. If you’d flesh it out, I’d be interested in hearing how it works

I haven’t got the faintest idea of how. Can anyone explain what is actually happening within a “normal” singularity? And what would happen if a singularity was comprised of all the matter of a universe? Could there be some as yet unknown quantum effect at that level of mass and gravity? But don’t rule it out simply because we don’t know.

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