CyberSchmuck admits trucks are hard to build

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Subaru first existed in 1954, though its parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, was started in 1932. Still, less than 100 years.

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That’s not even apples-to-oranges. That’s apples-to-kumquats. The Maverick is a tiny little truck. The Rivian is quite a bit larger, more Toyota Tacoma-sized.

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The reality is that they’re both trucks that are mostly used as cars by their owners, so I think it’s a fair comparison to make. The two Rivian owners that I know have never used their trucks for anything more substantial than hauling their mountain bikes around, but I’m sure that they think they made an environmentally responsible choice in buying them.

Also, it’s pretty funny what people consider to be a “tiny little truck” these days. Up until the 2004 model year Tacomas were 179" long, 67" wide, and 62" tall. The Maverick is 200" long, 73" wide, and 69" tall.

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I have a very different experience with Rivians here. I’ve seen them launching boats at the boat ramp, hauling trailers of yard debris, pulling medium campers, and I think I’ve seen more with rooftop tents over the bed than without. People here actually use them as pickup trucks.

Yeah, that’s what’s great about the Maverick - it harkens back to the older Tacomas before they bloated out to almost full-sized truck size.

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heck, $5k was the price of my last car

( used is an entirely different market, granted )

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Speaks volumes about the US car culture.

Loads of cars here in UK have their crossbeams on almost permanently. And every summer hordes of them set off loaded to the gunwhales with roof-boxes on top for their summer hols. If it won’t fit in the back of my Volvo estate it goes on the roof if it is rigid. If there’s too much for the inside of the car and it’s soft, out comes the trailer (very rarely - you can get a fuck of a lot inside a Volvo estate).

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Haha “volumes” is actually a good one word definition of US car culture :slight_smile:

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We are in agreement on what a great vehicle they are for the price. I rebuild my own cars and typically drive them for 300k miles or more so while I think that the Ford hybrids are excwllent new their value will ultimately be undercut by the number of repairs they require specifically as a result of bad engineering. Check out thier oil immersed timing belts for a start then look in to thier block and cooling jacket onstruction. If it doesnt run it is not a value sadly. I want to see someone do this vehicle correclty.

I like the smashed window on the “Cyber-truck”.

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They were trying to demonstrate that the windows were unbreakable.

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I guess he’s not familiar with Simone Giertz. https://youtu.be/R35gWBtLCYg?si=ixbEnM5jBlFEYLU3

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in that “lemons” video, the people who made their pickup truck into a fake tesla truck had a picture of a smashed window painted on the side.

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:thinking:

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“Sledgehammer impact on door cracked the base of the glass, which is why the steel ball didn’t bounce off,” he wrote.

“Should have done steel ball on window, then sledgehammer the door. Next time.”

What I’m getting from this is that the glass is impervious if you hit it with a steel ball, but it’s not impervious if you hit near it?

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I missed that, haha

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With that weird pointed roof, can the Cybertruck even take a roof rack?

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Heck, I even use a trailer with my bicycle for normal shopping. I find a trailer is often the best solution for cars as well, as the extra cargo capacity can stay in the garage when it’s not needed.

Then again, I live in a city with good public transportation, so I have the luxury of not really needing a car, and when I need a bigger vehicle for, say, going to Ikea I can just rent one by the hour. So my opinions are not really worth all that much.

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… CyberTruck cannot fail — we can only fail it :sob:

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