He says he didn’t vote for trump, so maybe his jesus-spidey sense was tingling about trump? On the other hand he seems to have been pretty all in with clinton-derangement-syndrome (in earlier posts). He mentioned, I think in another post, that he did not feel some kind of godly blessing when Obama or Clinton became president, implying that he did feel this at least when bush2 came in. It continues to astound me how few people re-evaluated their priors after the Bush2 presidency.
Reminds me of my religious right relatives, at least one of whom opposed trump. The one that did manage to see that Trump was incredibly awful enough to not vote for him still retained full frothing hatred for Clinton, most of them claim to have voted for neither (they are under immense social pressure not to have voted for clinton though, so who knows).
I don’t think these people use ‘demonic’ etc metaphorically. They mean it literally. Living in a magical world.
I had a roommate in amway (or actually the offshoot, who’s name escapes me). Of course she was trying to recruit me (which was not going to happen), but I did go to one of their ‘retirement’ parties because, gosh, that sounded weird. It is the strangest event I have ever been to. It is also the only time I have experienced fanaticism from a large group of people first hand. It was somewhat scary, even though they had no reason to turn on me, and the fanaticism was focused only on emptying their own pocket books. It was built up over a couple of hours. Rituals. Call and response prayers. A parade of heroes. At the end the ‘retiree’ is driven away in a limo. A dozen or two people chased after it waving tiny american flags shouting ‘freedom’ with spittle flying from their mouths.
There was a subtle darkness to it. These people, all being duped. So thoroughly. So eagerly.
I think the pastor found that feeling at the Trump rally, worse because people are being made to hate rather than simply suckered. He called it demonic energy, fit it into his religious worldview. Its as good of a description as any.
I read this long post yesterday and thought it might be useful to share if you had a certain religious crowd on your Facebook feed that might respond to his wording and approach.
Here is the official video of the full event:
The reading of the Lord’s Prayer sounded basically like someone who doesn’t speak English so well or know the Lord’s Prayer from heart reading it for dramatic purposes. It didn’t particularly creep me out. The other blend of religious songs with his entrance personally grated but probably resonates with his followers.
I couldn’t find any footage of the demonstrators at the rally that he describes. Seemed like a really controlled media environment.
how many other priests, clerics, people with weird costumes because god had the opposite reaction?
also the irony for me is that England is church and state as one and the country is one of the most secular while the US is separation of church and state and has an over exuberance for this idea.
I don’t care if this guy Tooley believes demons come in little tins of ham – more of this kind of Christian in the world, please! (Read his full account. Fascinating stuff.)
True. There are many evangelicals who believe in the bible but also understand that separation of church and state is good for everyone. Leftist christian’s do exist. They want strong environmental laws and know climate change is real. They’re for helping people out of poverty with government programs and private charity.
They don’t conflate christianity and capitalism like the conservative christian’s do. They’re out there in the crowds protesting against Trump too. We don’t hear about them much because they don’t make exciting news clips on Fox and Friends.
It’s worth remembering some of them are pro-LGBTQ too (not sure about numbers, sticking with what I know is safe). Most, if not all of them, won’t hassle anyone about it either.
As of now, this thread (or perhaps just the main article, but as it appears to be a Discourse-specific stat, I’m guessing thread) has been viewed around 1,400 times. Probably those “imaginary friend” comments annoyed enough of the faithful to cross the flag threshold. Would only take a few of 'em, right?
Uh oh - anyone got in for on blacksfortrump2020.com - had a quick dig and quickly came to anti-Semitic claptrap.
They seem well funded and somewhat more allied to Trump than would be natural from a small unknown group, plus how do they get those lovely positions right where the camera always looks?
Stooges, right? Divide and conquer the black vote, right?
I know the finger pointing about who is funding faux support groups at this point is getting ridiculous, but that group seemed to perform on cue. The whole spectacle was very orchestrated to me, which really hit my gag button. But there are a lot of folks who love performances like that. I suppose when you are in the center of it, it feels really great.
Wow, okay, that website is - really into the Jesus.
Here’s the text from their GoFundMe campaign for $200k for a gala event.
Blacks for Trump needs your help with donations to help us travel across the country to counter protest all of the protesters against Trump and his policies. black-and-white must unite. Our unity must be seen to destroy the lie that the Republicans are racist. When we stood behind Mr. Trump during the election we destroyed the Democrats narrative that Republicans and Trump are racist they had to switch to the woman game and we beat them, now that the elections are over they have gone back to that narrative that Trump and Republicans are racist so you see we must continue the fight because the accusers of the brethren are not going to stop trying to delegitimize President Trump and the Republicans Rev12:10, so we must continue the fight to prove to the world that God’s way is the right way. I also need your help to help us finance the American gala award event see American-gala.com, an event with latin, black and white stars to show unity in the community and to help our Great American Vets.
Also, am I the only one who kinda loves this graphic?
I went into the guy’s Facebook page that is behind this group and there is something very fishy about his page. If you look at his likes, events timeline, it feels like a newer page.
Yea, verily, that I wondereth wide-eyed upon the scale of ignorance possessed by the ill-kempt mass of humanity, and shuddereth at the thought they share mine pathway.
I encourage everyone to read the whole FB post, don’t get hung up on the “Demonic activity” clickbait pullquote. It’s actually quite a relatively calm and somewhat neutral account (which I give him quite a bit of credit for!) of his experience, the “demon” references are just one of the ways that he explains his experience in the story.
It appears the guy is kinda of crazy in Jesus-y kind of way and that the Trump campaign has been giving him tickets to Super Bowl parties, etc., in order to keep him visible on TV and video.
