Good point!
I think I can honestly say I wouldn’t be supporting Trump if he was running as a Democrat against a moderate Republican. But I don’t think it would be as easy for someone that extreme to get the nomination in the first place, because the same mechanisms that “rigged” the primaries against Bernie Sanders in favor of an establishment candidate are designed to help the party vet out the crazies like Trump.
Again, then you should never be confused as to why Trump is going to get so many votes. Republicans, when asked why they are voting for Trump, say the exact same thing.
He’s still actively courting white nationalists. I’m not sure you realize how dangerous that can be.
I’m afraid an interdimensional rift has appeared between whatever reality you’re living in and mine which is only bridged by this BBS. It’s been fascinating communicating with the negaverse, but I’m afraid that I have to be going.
Americans supported Hitler because he opposed Bolshevism. Americans supplied and supported bin Laden because he opposed the Soviet Union. How many horrible dictators and genocidal maniacs over the last century have we stood behind because of perceived dangers?
I don’t agree with that. I think I am accountable for what I vote FOR. Every mob thinks it is in the right. Oddly, history tends to look at the mob, and what they do, and don’t lend a lot of weight to their excuses.
I’m unsure what that has to do with the support of ethno-nationalism here at home. We KNOW that has historically been a danger for everyone who doesn’t fit into the definition of whiteness.
This is what some of Trumps supporters would have us bring back. These were Americans, our fellow citizens.
And while Trump is not solely responsible for the spike in activities among white nationalists, he’s not going to alienate them either.
There is plenty of room for criticism of Clinton and democratic tendency towards imperialism. There is also NO DOUBT that Trump is stirring up some serious problems domestically, which will impact some groups of people in this country more than others.
I’m unsure what that has to do with the support of ethno-nationalism here at home.
Because you are making the same arguments. You are suggesting I support people I believe to be evil, to oppose other people I believe to be evil. My support of evil doesn’t end with Trump’s defeat, though. I continue to be complicit in Clinton’s behavior thereafter; behavior I, right now, consider to be evil.
But that is the very reason that so many non-racist Republicans are voting for Trump. They don’t want Clinton nominating liberal justices to SCOTUS, so, they will accept one evil to oppose another. It would be pretty illogical, and hypocritical, for me to take issue with them, and do the same thing myself.
Pretty much.
That and Kiwis seem to have bought into trickle down economics, and “I’m not a poor, just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.” Need I mention there is a creationist museum here?
Fuckit, where’s that knife? 
They are still voting for a guy who has thrown in with ethno-nationalists, who have ruled this country since the beginning and have only very recently in history had to accept that POC and women are actually human beings too.
I’d also argue that Trump will likely have the same, shitty racists foreign policies that literally EVERY.SINGLE.ADMINISTRATION. has had in this country. Voting for trump is a huge step backwards for race/gender relations in America. And like @Melizmatic indicated, this is not acceptable. Never again should lynching be the law of the land. Never again.
No. If a person says “I will do this.”, and you believe that act to be morally wrong, refusing to support it isn’t splitting. People who vote for Trump are using the exact same logic you are. They are saying “He is bad, but he isn’t ALL bad, so why not vote for him to keep Clinton from winning?”
The candidates tell us what they will do, we decide if we want to support those things being done. If someone says “I will do many nice things, oh, and also commit genocide”, it isn’t splitting to withhold support from them. It’s responsibility and integrity.
Republicans say, "Not voting for Trump means you support murdering babies."
Democrats say “Not voting for Clinton means you support lynching.”
It’s an ugly, bullying tactic used to shame people into voting against their conscience, as old as politics itself. I choose to have my own mind, and be responsible for my own conscience. They both are terrible people with terrible agendas, and I choose not to support terrible things.
Facebook, in spite of criticism (mainly from the right) to the contrary, still serves me several headlines each week from the likes of Daily Caller.
Your list is missing quite a few countries.
Not all of 'em were invasions; sometimes y’all use local mercenaries for the ground component.
No. You’re talking to me, who is not a democrat, nor did I declare to speak for democrats. My point was that Trump has the white supremacist vote and that by supporting him, people effectively are voting for a white supremacist. This is not a matter of opinion on my part, but a very real and scary fact. Just like all the people in Louisiana who are going to vote for David Duke, even though they “aren’t racist” is still voting for a white supremacist. And that has consequences.
Someone here is voting for Trump? No one that I have seen is. If your problem is with people voting for Trump, I am not sure why you were ever addressing me.
Google just offered up this gem… A guy using Facebook comments as an unbiased poll.
http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/10/man-surveys-588000-americans-in-presidential-poll-the-final-results-are-astounding/
