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I think the Russians see themselves as constantly being under attack from the West, in a defensive posture.

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What the heck, since you’re going why not take a few of ours while you’re at it!

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This reminds me that there are people in Middlesbrough who still have good memories of the North Korean Football team from 1966. My Grandad saw them beat Italy (although he isn’t from anywhere near Middlesbrough).

Hate the power structures and those who seek to benefit from them, not the rest of the people.

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OH, boy, someone needs to read more about the seat of their pants race the Russians ran. Which, like I said, were commendable for the rather ingenious solutions they came up with and their daring spirit. At the space museum I worked at we had the 2nd most Soviet space stuff in the US. But their level of acceptable risk was much higher than the NASA program.

The Apollo 1 tragedy is head slappingly obvious now, but it wasn’t an acknowledged risk at the time that was over ridden. It was an over looked design flaw.

For sure the level of risk for test pilots was even higher, as was the way we used troops in say WWII vs today. I don’t see the American public stomaching WWII battle sized loses in a modern war today. Though I would argue the Russians had even less regard for life in their troops and people they used to say clear land mine areas, send people to battle with no weapons, etc.

But hey - I admit I am generalizing here. It is a combination of person anecdotes with people I have met, historical events that repeatedly show Russians wiping out other Russians, and probably some popular culture sprinkled in. I freely admit it isn’t more than a wobbly opinion based some facts, but is by no means a proper psychological profile of the Russian psyche.

I am talking about the upper diplomatic relations - which soured as soon as the common enemy was gone. I am sure US troops would gladly welcome and embrace soldiers fighting the same fight they were.

Oh I think this is a global thing. In my limited travels out side the US, I have had nothing but warmth from people. People are people no matter where they are.

Anecdotal story, I usually don’t talk to strangers, but something 10 years ago made me talk to a veteran passing out poppies one day. He said he was a POW from the Battle of the Bulge. He said the American prisoners were the best treated, the French and British were treated pretty well, but the Polish were treated poorly and the Russians were treated the worse.

Makes sense. The Poles I know constantly eye the East for the same reason. But to be fair the Poles I know are pretty anti-Russian, so, maybe its just them.

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The Russians were officially Untermenschen right up until the last desperate months when some idiot in the Nazi Party had the idea that maybe they could find, among the surviving Russian slave labourers, some who were anti-Stalin enough to want to defend the Reich. The level of German delusion was beyond mind-blowing.
The rest of the pecking order is obvious. By the time of the BotB, Hitler was beginning to believe that he could persuade the US to change sides to keep the USSR out of Europe. He was less sure of the British because of Churchill, and of course the French were already conquered. So the pecking order was based on the idea that good treatment of US PoWs, and to a lesser extent British ones, might bring about a reversal of fortunes.

Poland has a terrible history, but Pushkin described the history of Russia as voyna y mor - war and pestilence. Tolstoy changed this to voyna y mir - War and Peace - but he was overoptimistic. I don’t think Americans can really understand the Russian point of view without thinking deeply about what it’s like to have had your country devastated by the French and the Germans. If you think 9/11 multiplied by 2000, you’re just about getting to an idea of 1941.
Putting missiles on the Russian border shows a lack of understanding, in my view.

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Look, it’s clearly documented in Genesis, Chapter 1! They started the rot by eating of the fruit which they were forbidden to eat, and from thereon things went downhill. You can’t argue with Biblical inerrancy.

Let me rephrase that slightly. It is not possible to have an argument with people who believe in Biblical inerrancy.

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Weird idea… Kellyanne is a professional political person, not a Trumpista. I just wonder if she is making stuff up on purpose to push the envelope to breaking. I am listening for her creations to get weirder and weirder until they become utterly risible and embarrassing. Just to see what happens…

Definitely allies. Although downplayed in the post-war chill, supplies from the west may have been crucial:

http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm

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Dodge 6x6 trucks and especially half tracks were vital. Soviet trucks weren’t particularly useful, and the Germans were more of a horse army than is generally realized. The rocket barrages relied on the mobility and capacity of those trucks.

US second-line aircraft were also useful in improving the… target for their engine production. It’s not that the Allisons and the radials we sent were particularly powerful or particularly well made, but the Soviets had been stuck, prewar, at obsolete sizes and scales. Airplanes are more useful when they’re scaled up. Powerplant size at useful weights governs that.

You sure it was 18 dead? It couldn’t be 4 dead so I could make my kids listen to Neil Young’s “Ohio” and bore them with a monologue about the irony of it all?

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Hey! It’s too damn soon for jokes like that. My brother’s cousin’s landlady’s sister’s babysitter almost died at Bowling Green and she would have too if it weren’t for the sacrifices of fine upstanding youth like yourself. So buy Americans!

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Here, look it up…

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Once you scratch out ll regulations and all corporate taxes, the distinction doesn’t mean quite so much :unamused:

Silly question: do biblical literalists tend to consider Adam and Eve Jewish?

Jewish Torah Literalists don’t, actually; Jews are defined as being the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, with the defining founder being specifically Jacob.

Ok, I would have expected something like that. Then again, Jewish Torah
scholars have much higher standards for scholarship than most Christian
fundamentalists/literalists

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Silly answer; I’m not really writing for a theological audience.
I mean, actually, no; but do literalists actually read all that stuff about Israel, Isaac, Esau, Jacob and so on? I was partly mocking their extremely selective knowledge of the Bible.

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I figured, I was just curious anyway

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