We are all figments of @Mrgto’s imagination… Or maybe you are all figments of my imagination… either way one of us has got to get a better imagination.
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I have no problem with flat-Earthers; society actually needs a few village idiots.
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Is it wrong that I am tempted to offer these guillible folks potential clients my services for an in-depth investigation of this international conspiracy? For a reasonable monthly subscription fee, I’d be glad to publish my findings in a newsletter. It shouldn’t take more more than a few years to figure out who is behind this global, uh I mean, disc deception…
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The clocks in GPS satellites are adjusted to tick at the same speed as ground clocks in average, but there is also a periodic term, due to orbital eccentricity, that needs to be taken into account in the user software.
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It’s all just an imagination vacuum fluctuation.
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I think one could only truly believe in a flat Earth if they also had a really weird idea of how gravity works-- so if you step off the edge of the Earth you fall off, instead of floating in space, and images of astronauts in zero gravity mean. . . what? Basically you have to believe in the universe having an “up” and “down”, and so what’s at the bottom then? Is there a planet underneath the Earth somewhere, and maybe we could travel there by simply timing it right when we jump off the edge?
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Middle earthers appear?
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Not a physicist either but I’ve done research on this before and this is correct. The effects of General and Special Relativity are small but notable with GPS and compensation is necessary. There’s a great and easy to digest explanation (including where the compensation is done) here:
http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html
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Here’s all I have to say about this nonsensical topic in a nutshell:
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Well, I prefer the explanation given in XXXenophile#5, “Hoisters” written and penciled by Phil Foglio and inked by Donna Barr.
Apparently planes only fly due to the subconscious belief of so called “Hoisters”, so the airlines make sure that they always have two on board.
Seated away from each others.
Because if they happen to dig each other, strange things happen. Also pornographic things.
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What percentage of flat earthers are true believers of a young-earth-creationist bent, general crazies (e.g. the kind of people that might also believe in the electric universe theory), and trolls? It looks to me like this one has far more of the last group than other fringe beliefs, maybe because it’s such an obviously ludicrous position to take? The idea that someone might actually be this dumb is quite effective in triggering a response. Looking through the memes it’s hard to tell some of them apart, lots of obvious irony making fun of the concept, lots of other examples where they’ve gone to too much trouble for it all to be joke, but lots of others where it’s hard to tell.
Please, Melz, give the patient some credit.
Could someone make something like cards against humanity with flat earth claims and counter-arguments?
You can win this game in two ways:
- not playing it,
- arguing very calm and succinctly.
While we’re at it: I wish I had all this calm for anti-vaxxers.
All I get when I ask friends how they would deal with anti-vaxxers in their vicinity is “walk away, stop any relationship”.
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I believe that some who espouse this theory are actually seeking attention to other things. I met one who was using the polemic around the flat earth to promote his religious ideas, which are so absurd that they would not interest anyone without this publicity stunt.
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engaging with these weirdos serves two purposes:
- it’s fun
- you can use it to hone your critical thinking skills and brush up on some elementary physics, if that kind of thing interests you.
@LutherBlisset, this is quite distinct from arguing with anti-vaxers, who are doing very real harm.
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Interesting thread.
Reminds me of the time i tried to argue with a chemtrail enthusiast.
Pointing out the absurdity of perfect compliance with zero leaks ever in regards to the ‘conspiracy’ with:
-The entire scientific community
-All aircraft designers/manufacturers and maintenance staff, over many decades
-The production, storage and distribution of all these alleged chemicals to be released
got me nowhere, it was like trying to reason with a brick wall. Their mind was made up and nothing at all would make it through, just add more layers to their conspiracy.
To manage those three points without there ever being a single leak would probably be one of the singular most impressive feats ever to pull off in human history in my opinion.
And that is a less stupid conspiracy theory than the flat earth one…
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CUBOIDISTS WILL BURN LIKE THE HERETICS THEY ARE.
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That was a complete sentence.
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I think that is the truth about most of them. I’ve had a few discussions with some, and they are obviously trollies, although less harmful than some breed of trollies. The thing that gets me is that they will ignore any argument which destroys their position-like, if the Earth is a flat disk with the sun and moon circling above it, how does a lunar eclipse work?
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There’s a (usually) invisible shadow disc that crosses in front of the moon.
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