The problem being, as I stated in the other thread, is that people don’t put it in the correct bin. I get fined for having non-recyclables in my recycling bin. So when the garbage man discovers baggies of poop in there, it’s my problem. And it happened several times.
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As seven other people explained:
[quote=“glenblank, post:43, topic:103117”]please please PLEASE don’t throw bags of dog shit in my bin where it will fester in a hot sunlit black bin for a week - ESPECIALLY if you use “biodegradable” dog-poop bags. Those things biodegrade in the heat in a matter of a day or two.
Dog-poop bags, even the non-biodegradable ones, are made of the thinnest possible disposable plastic. They pop if you look at them sideways. And then my trash can smells like fermented dog shit until next week’s pickup, and probably afterwards unless I wash my can.
Chemotherapy makes it really hard to deal with nauseating smells like fermented dog shit. One good, solid whiff can provoke an hour of dry-heave vomiting.
And the arthritis and nerve damage I have makes hosing out the garbage bin a really painful chore.[/quote]
[quote=“bcsizemo, post:70, topic:103117”]In the 100F degree July heat I don’t need your dog’s poop festering in my trashcan - I have a toddler for that. And you may well double bag and neatly seal that poop, but someone at some time hasn’t. That means fresh dog shit all over the inside of my bin…so as a general rule no, your trash goes in your can.
When I lived downtown I’d have people drop half empty cans of beer in our recycling. It didn’t matter if they were literally on the street picking it up, because now there is beer all inside my recycling bin. Same goes with poop, at some point it is going to get on the inside of my can.[/quote]
[quote=“chgoliz, post:77, topic:103117”]
some people don’t close the bags first, so when they throw them in someone’s bin, the poop can (and does) fall out, making a stink that has to be cleaned up.[/quote]
[quote=“anothernewbbaccount, post:79, topic:103117”]
Because people get the wrong bins
Because people use inappropriately thin bags that burst/leak (e.g. bags with airholes for infants, that are not designed for poop)
Because people use bags that they do not seal properly[/quote]
[quote=“peregrinus_bis, post:83, topic:103117, full:true”]Where I live, they don’t tip the bins up to empty them - they take the lids off, pull out the bags (it’s the UK), and refuse to take anything not rubbish (garbage) bag sized.
So poop bags stay. You may not notice, often I don’t - I don’t have a dog - and then it might rain a bit (like I say, it’s the UK). The lids have been left off. I put them on when I return from work. If it’s raining, I wait for it to stop, then empty them.
Or it might stay dry. Dry and hot.
So I end up with either fecal soup, served cold like gazpacho; heated mouldy dog turd a la old Swiss roll; or heated fecal soup, like a chocolate turd bouillabaisse. And the disposal people won’t take it away.
Health hazard, anyone? Plus stink.
So I have to sort it out - and have determined that the socially irresponsible people who use my bins like their own have a peculiar failing: since it’s not going to their property, they don’t bother to seal the poop in well. So it slops.
So I have to sort out the poop, and bleach the bins because dog shit soup. It takes time, and it’s ferociously annoying, I have better things to do.[/quote]
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[quote=“manybellsdown, post:21, topic:103153”]
The problem being, as I stated in the other thread, is that people don’t put it in the correct bin.[/quote]
OK, I think it is legitimate to object to people putting waste in the wrong bin. That is not a specific “poop in the waste bin” problem, but a generic one.
Not anywhere I could see them.
Few of those apply to the situation I described, which specifically is about a bin before pickup. (Unless you leave the bin on the berm or street for days before pickup, in which case please remove your eyesore from the public property.)
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Which is ultimately irrelevant, because people don’t want your dog’s poop in their bin. The end. When you ignore those reasons because you think “that doesn’t apply to me,” you’re being a lazy, entitled, arrogant asshole.
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Ugh, anything was better than Load.
Sigh. Okay. I’m turnin’ off the sprinklers.
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Are you sure it wasn’t Re-Flex’s ill-advised second single?
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The forests I work in don’t have any sort of facilities, but there are often houses nearby to where we park on the way in. I’ve had residents yell at me for daring to put a sandwich wrapper into their bins (on the kerb, not entering their property).
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For me, anything that encourages waste to go anywhere except on the street (or in the woods) is a good thing.
I don’t want Trump to be president, but no matter how hard I petulantly stamp my foot he won’t go away.
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There’s a thing I see a lot where people have obviously gone to the bother of picking up their dog’s crap and putting it in a bag - and they then tie the bag to the branch of a tree, leaving it dangling like some sort of macabre dog-shit gibbet.
I really don’t get what that’s about.
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Why, they’re providing temporary decorations until the poop-collecting fairy comes.
Wait - they’re being good and putting it up high so no-one treads on it!
Basically, its antisocial littering. Leaving shit waving in the breeze? Big nasty.
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This thing with the verge and bin on public land etc: if the bin is only temporarily there for emptying, it will return to their property.
A fundamental point about living in community is that your liberty stops where the next person’s begins.
Putting poop in a bin on a verge is unfair. It’s more than likely to create an issue.
If you pooper scoopers are so confident in the bags you use, surely they’ll last the journey home without presenting a problem to you? Right? Would you spit on someone’s property? Would you sing nutty songs all night outside their house?
No you wouldn’t - because you know damn well it’s a recognisable nuisance.
Because I tell you, if I catch someone putting their dog poop in my bin (London, terraced house, bin on private patio but easily accessible from the sidewalk), I’m going to give them the piece of my mind they won’t forget.
How about knocking on the door and asking if it’s ok to drop the poop bag in their bin? Eh - whassat? No?!?! Why not?
Notions of free country and public land, this is all horse shit. The key is nuisance, and do you inflict it through your actions.
Be neighbourly, don’t be crap.
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Well, quite. I just don’t get the half-way nature of thing. I mean they’ve gone to the trouble of bagging it up so they’ve got the message that it’s not ok to leave the turds lying around. So what happened to the rest of the message about disposing of it in a suitable bin?
Are attention spans so short now that “Bag it. Bin it” is too long?
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I regularly work in parkland.
In every regularly-used park in which there is a trail that winds out of public view, there will be a stash of dog shit bags at the spot in which the trail is no longer conspicuous.
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[quote=“peregrinus_bis, post:32, topic:103153”]
bin on private patio but easily accessible from the sidewalk[/quote]
ie, not the same thing at all.
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There isn’t anywhere to abusively vent unreasonable expectations here, and while we can go on and on about what we are entitled to, any attempts to take title to the blog have been met with monumental indifference. I’ve heard no action (or notice) will be taken if you complain about the free ice cream at your own blog, however.
Well that’s not the poop. that’s the pee. Is that pedantic enough?
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We’ve had people like that yell at us for daring to use 4ft of their long driveway to safely turn the car around. People be weird about “their” property yo.
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And if dog owners only did this, I suppose it would be less of a problem.
I had dog owners ruin a compstables bin because they kept putting dog poop in it after pickup. Those bins are designed to stay in your home when they’re not waiting for pickup. I lived in a walkup apartment. There wasn’t any garage or back garden for me to hose out the bin – or leave it outside.
I caught a woman dropping a bag of dog poop into my empty green bin once and yelled at her about it. She claimed it was the first time. I pointed out there was an appropriate public bin at the street corner – less than 50m away – and she mumbled non sequiters. She walked off without retrieving the poop because the inside of the bin was “dirty”, no doubt in part from some of her other “first time” uses.
So sure, in the wonderfully fantastic situation where a dog owner only uses your bin before pickup, and they only use the appropriate bin, I suppose you’re right.
But they don’t do either of those things often enough to make it not enormously inconsiderate.
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I don’t agree, and you’re making a facile statement to evade the thrust of my argument.
If there is an individual who has to deal with excretion issues in a bin, whether or not it’s on public or private land, whether or not it’s a city-issued bin or privately bought, that individual still has to take care of the issue.
It’s not about ownership, property, public / private - it’s about having to clean up shit.
I’m massively community-favorable, I absolutely encourage everyone to help eachother out - but ask first. What is wrong with asking?
Walking round, chucking shit where you please - that’s what leads to conflict.
Rights, duties, all of this - we made it up. We made it up to prevent conflict.
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