The point I was making was that the film would have us believe he was some old friend of the crew and on the best of terms with everyone. Yet Joss didn’t bother making that believable at all, he just hamfisted it in and did the whole “deal with it” thing. Badly written, badly produced and just bad idea all around.
I’m in the “meh” camp on Serenity. I was excited to see it, and there were good moments, but the overall thing left me underwhelmed.
Love love love the series, but after Adam Baldwin’s behaviour during gamergate I wasn’t keen to see the series reboot with the original cast anyway. It’s hard to separate the artist from their art after seeing some of that.
Whatever Disney does with it will be - emotionally - a different show altogether, so I’m not gonna lump them together. “Some show with a similar title and setting”.
But seriously, at some point in this thread, continuing to shit on a movie many people, including myself, liked is just a derail. You made your point. You can stop beating the dead plush donkey.
I take your point, but if it was the “accepted wisdom” then there wouldn’t be a market for reboots. I’m not a universal purist, but at some point it’s hard to see the things you love get watered down in the collective consciousness. The deeper the love, the harder it is.
If they have to go family-friendly, instead of a reboot, bring the next generation of the Serenity crew (literally, their offspring) together around inheritance of the ship. They could be young adults and have post-Reaver adventures.
If they are going to reboot it from scratch, I have no problem with a completely new cast, new director (Whedon is both busy and problematic). It could be brilliant. Just not hobbled by restrictions that are inherently inconsistent with the premise.
I remember watching the Serenity movie. I thought it worked fine. Most of the objections seem rooted in parts I didn’t see, or just sort of ignore whenever I watch.
A reboot might be appealing, to be honest, but it kind of depends. We’re not even sure there will be a reboot, so its kind of hard to become enthusiastic over the idea.
I tend to think the show itself ran its course, all plot dangles aside. If it had run longer, it might have easily overstayed its welcome, which I can sort of see happening based on how … other properties associated with the principal creator … tended to turn out.