Food magazine editor resigns after joking about "killing vegans, one by one"

Meanwhile I’m starting a fundamentalist pineapple-on-pizza splinter faction. I’m calling it ANANAS: ANnoyed Advocates of Nutritious-Ass Spinyfruit.

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edit:
nevermind. My sarcasm detector was temporarily offline.

I think it’s entirely possible you’re taking a jocular chiding entirely too seriously.

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Yes, I went back to read the original post, and decided the same thing :smiley:

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I’m currently a meat eater, but I find many vegan alternatives preferable to their “real” counterparts. Yeah, they’re different and do different things, but even viewing from the perspective of replacement foods, they’re preferable. Cow milk grosses me out while soy milk is delicious. Veganaise is objectively better than the stuff with eggs. I choose seitan or tempeh over meat when available. Nutritional yeast is much better than parmesan in at least 75% of use cases. I just wish all that stuff were cheaper.

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Join my splinter group? We have vegan cookies.

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I, in my function as a vegan, which I myself am, wholeheartedly approve of your message -that of a fellow vegan, who you are.

Look everybody, how peacefully us two vegans have coexisted and communicated. 'Tis true (you might say) that we are the better people.

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Kinda like when Michael Phelps was exposed as a huge stoner?

Instead of reflecting badly on him, it made weed look like health food.

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Yes! To me it has more flavor.

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I had a conversation once with a particularly obnoxious conervative leaning guy I know.

Him: I hate vegetarians. So annoying!
Me: I dunno. I know literally dozens. They are fine. Normal people.
Him: You know dozens of vegetarians??
Me: Sure, most are Indian.
Him: Oh, well, they don’t count.

What I took away from it is Veganism/Vegetarianism is a proxy for liberalism. There is no overlap in his mind with U.S. political ideology and Hindu-based vegetarianism. And of course there is a weird sort of pride in “pwning the libs” on the right.

I suspect you would have a similar conversation with those agressive meat eaters about Indian vegetarians.

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I am not vegan or even vegetarian, but one thing I do not get is the freakout over accomodating a vegan’s meal choices.

If you have someone you know is vegan over for dinner… it’s one meal out of all the other meals. Most times one or two quick swaps can accommodate. Unless you have some really obscure medical condition that hasn’t even been recorded, you will not die from having a single meal out of your week/month/year that doesn’t use animal products.

If you’re going out, find a mutually agreeable restaurant. Many places have some kind of option on the menu, and no one is asking you to eat their meal.

And if you cannot do either of those things, please let the vegan person in your life know. It’ll mean that they know that they need to spend less time and energy on you and can go look for friends who can offer mutual respect.

Back on topic: just like in the thread about the nurse, I do not feel sorry for this guy. He responded in an obviously hostile manner to someone while representing his company. He could have sent a quick, professional reply stating that they weren’t looking for stories in that direction, right now. Instead, he responded in writing, no less in a highly inappropriate (to put it mildly) fashion. I have better things to save my tears for.

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Only if they’re ‘well done’. I’m afraid of Kuru. :wink:

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I’m met way, way more people who think all vegans are assholes than vegans who are actually assholes.

I think at some point you have to start laying blame on the people who blindly believe and repeat stereotypes.

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Not with that attitude.

I’ve actually spoken to a couple of vegans who feel the same way you do–that vegans shouldn’t want to eat meat. It’s baffling to me. It’s like saying it’s hypocritical for a pacifist to enjoy playing Street Fighter. If we can find a way to make tasty vegan cheese, why shouldn’t we? As long as no one is harmed, opposing it is just empty moralizing.

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And then there were two.

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Nah.

To me the issue isn’t that it’s offensive to vegans, it’s that it was super unprofessional. I can see where the magazine might be better off without that lack of impulse control at the helm.

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Unfortunately if you search for vegan fueds, you’ll turn up an absurd number of hits.

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Several people, including me, have already addressed that up thread. In short, there are food “form factors” that are fun and delicious, like burgers or pizza, that we want to partake in, but want to do it without meat involved.

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Regarding the small but, shall we say, aggressively preachy and egotistical vegans, I wonder if there’s an underlying social dynamic here.

(Note: I’m highly sympathetic to the vegan/vegetarian cause, and only being weak-willed, especially when it comes to food–and having the extra difficulty setting of living in Japan–is keeping me from being one myself)

There’s annoying people like that, and they often seem to be drawn to causes and positions that enable it. Minority, rare, fringe, righteous things, as likely to be progressive as not. In the UK, Socialist Workers were notorious for often being quite boringly obnoxious. Perhaps, as progressivism (additional note: I’m a damned progressive, OK?), veganism, and suchlike becomes more normative then not only will the increased numbers dilute the annoying folk, but also deter them. Wait, I’m talking about hipsters, aren’t I? Crap.

Anyway, almost forgot to mention: the editor here seems to be the reactionary version of the same phenomenon. Just the other side of the same coin.

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