Fuck Today (Part 1)

I’m American, despite my idiosyncratic spelling and vocabulary.

Apparently the Daily Telegraph printed my email address in association with some guy rambling on about Britain leaving the EU two days ago. Or at least something close enough to my email address for elderly British people who think decimal currency is an invention of the devil.

I am about fed up with replying to 80 year old British pensioners who think wogs start at Calais. I have been polite so far but I am thinking about going full Dali on them, suggestions are appreciated.

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That’s just part of parenthood isn’t it?

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Dude… you need to screen cap this all and post it here for us!

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that deserves a new thread even.

ETA: Isn’t it the FROGS that start at Calais anyway? Nitpicking about racial slurs…/pedant

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I hope my parents haven’t contacted you!

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east or west of Britannia it’s nothing but wogs all the way down

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Options include…

  • creating filters in your email client to automatically divert all emails with a certain word or words in the email body to the trash (but you knew);
  • creating a rule in your email client (or writing a wee piece of code that will perform same) that autoforwards all email (fitting the description as above) to an email address of your choice. Going for compassion? Find an email address here perhaps: http://mhf.linux.hs.to/your-mental-health/getting-help ? Going for a honest, simple redirect to the source: the Telegraph itself? Forward posts to "editor@telegraph.co.uk" or similar.

This is the whole 8675309 problem all over again:

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I thought St. Louis, Missouri, USA had that dubious distinction.

Northern charm.
Southern efficiency.
And some innovative approaches to unique cuisine (or, queasyn):

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Once a day starts bad, it is unlikely to get better.

Years ago I overslept on a day of a fairly important meeting (for which I still had some prep to do); in my haste to get moving I (a) gave the dog a much shorter walk than usual, and (b) left without my office keys/flat keys keyring. When I got to the office I noticed (b), and since the meeting wasn’t for a few hours thought I had time to address the problem, and should do so while it was still daytime. I raced back home, and discovered that the local locksmith (I lived in a small town in Yorkshire, only one locksmith) was off to Spain on hols. The tool rental place was open, however, and I never locked my living room window, so I managed to fit into my FIAT 127 a ladder long enough to reach the 2nd (ie, 1st) floor of my Victorian row house, drove home, overcame my intense fear of heights long enough to climb the ladder and get into my flat. I poked my head into the kitchen to check on my dog, who had somehow heard neither the ladder banging, the window opening, me climbing in and walking around, and who now totally freaked to see me standing there. As she seemed really upset, I decided to take her to work with me. En route I had a puncture, the car’s shaking as I drove off the road scared her so much she pooped on the hatch floor. I changed the tire, moved the dog to the passenger seat (I didn’t have anything to clean her mess in the back), drove to work in the stinky car, and got there just as the meeting ended. So, I cleaned the car and drove back home, and remembered that we were low on food, but it was early closing day in my town so the shops were closed. Dog and I shared a tin of beans on toast that evening for supper.

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MMM Toasted Ravioli… but thats been on the questions thread twice already.

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Tale a look at j9c’s nice website, I season my pans more-or-less the way she does, though I use peanut oil instead of palm oil or bacon drippings.

That said, we do almost all our frying these days on a German forged pan (like this one), which is a slightly heavier version of the carbon steel pans that have become popular again. These have nice smooth surfaces (unlike modern cast iron), and I think season a little more easily. The traditional German way to season forged pans is by frying potatoes in them. Here is a very cool video showing both how such pans are made and how they are seasoned and used.

(If you search youtube for “eisenpfanne” you’ll find many fine examples of similar pans being used to fry potatoes in enormous quantities of oil.)

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Not unless you have an endless capacity for boredom. Maybe if I think of a clever reply… but I’ve been considering using one of Bender’s --“Well, that’s fascinating - no, wait, that other word - tedious.”

@TobinL, traditionally Frogs are the closest wogs. Scots aren’t wogs on a technicality, James the 6th or 2nd or something, and the Irish Sea is wider than the Channel. :wink:

@daneel if I find out your parents are involved you’re going to start getting voice mail from a man with Parkinson’s dementia, I’m warning you!

@anon27554371 I’m actually pretty good with email - I admin sendmail, postfix and (shudder) exchange a fair bit, but I’m also very lazy :slight_smile: so I hate having to code without a paycheck… good idea about emailing the telegraph editor, though, thanks for the address!

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I work in 2 tier internal tech support. Level 1 (front lines). Level 2 works in a building 30 miles away.

We are expected to rely on L2 for help when we need it. L2 rarely answer their phones or reply to im or email from us.

We’re resentful of them for this.

Today I thought I’d try a new thing involving exchange configs to take some work off their hands and asked the “nicest” guy there for some help.

He decided to dispense the help with with faux socratic method and sophistry instead. While condescending to me.

When I had enough and told him he isn’t my mentor, this isn’t a college philosophy class and if I wanted help I’d appreciate an answer instead of bullshit, he got all offended and mentioned that he’d spent an hour interrupted from his work flow to “help” me. “I knew you could do it yourself.”

This isn’t a fucking school. I don’t have all day to be teased and bullied. I moved to the day shift specifically so I could get help when I need it.

But maybe being left to rot in the oubillete forgotten is better after all.

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Yeah. I know. How about deep fried wontons? Could be an alternate version. Close enough? As long as we’re on the (geographical) subject…

In this thread, no mention of how f’d up St. L continues to be on some levels. Any bOINGers in St. L to report live, on the ground? I saw news item last year:

which has a dateline of “Tuesday 2 December 2014 23.00 EST” and, in part, looks like this:

"Strife-torn St Louis is among 35 cities around the world inducted on Wednesday into a $100m programme designed to strengthen their resilience to natural disaster, and enhance their ability to tackle issues such as violence, social exclusion and transport congestion.

"The US city, which counts the troubled community of Ferguson among its suburbs, is judged to suffer from “high poverty and high crime rates”. According to St Louis officials, upgrading infrastructure and improving public health and education will help ease social tensions there.

"A total of 35 metropolitan areas have been added to the 100 Resilient Cities programme, an initiative funded by the Rockefeller Foundation which allocates financial and logistical support to each chosen city, including a dedicated “chief resilience officer”. … "

Plenty of double-plus-unwealthy citizens of St. L and Ferguson could weigh in on this thread here and now, over a year after the Magic Fix-It Money from the Rockefellers, and likely discuss problems as serious as any discussed here (and likely some of the same kinds as the ones discussed here). I remember saying something like “F… Today” when I heard that Ferguson was on fire (in 2014).

I do wonder what the progress report is these days, specifically wrt that initiative money for the Resilient Cities Programme.

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What gets so badly under my skin is that, I am quite aware I can solve these things myself. I eventually did.

But I shouldn’t have to learn this stuff on my own. We have little documentation in this org. We rely heavily on tribal knowledge. Which I had no access to for 2 years on the night shift.

I never had the benefit of being taught anything here. Never. I had to figure everything out myself.

And when I’m finally put in a position where I actually can ask for help. I’m handed a turd sandwich. And when I point out a turd sandwich isn’t what I asked for, the sandwich maker then tries to make me feel guilty for even asking for a little help.

Fuck this place. I’m so close to done here. I’m done with being alternately completely ignored then disrespected. I’m tired of people expecting me to do wonderful things, but having to fight tooth and nail for the knowledge and tools to do mundane things. I’m just sick of these people. These shitty, egotistical people who think they’re my teachers when at best they’re experts at bullying.

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My oma had several Eisenpfanne. I hope to inherit one in due time from either my mom or uncle, both deutsch and boy do they eat like Deutschers.

I have some Lodge, some Wagner iron skillets here, including a wee “egg pan” for making exactly one fried egg. That was the easiest pan to train the kids to use because it wasn’t heavy and intimidatingly large. Every family member [who loves breakfast tacos] [that would exclude my partner] thus knows how to make and does make his or her own breakfast.

I gave up on the multiple coats and the high temps for seasoning and just kinda muddle along cooking with some extra oil, esp. in my Lodge skillets, which are coarser than the Wagners but I have had them since college days.

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I had a very long conversation with a close friend last night, surprisingly similar. And know there will be disagreements, but I am going to give you (unsolicited) advice I gave him.

  1. Take care of your co-workers you enjoy, any way you can.
  2. Take care of your family and loved ones.
  3. Take care of yourself.
  4. Nuke the rest from orbit.

In. That. Order. I can spell out exactly why it needs to happen that way, but it’s basically an implementation of Maslow’s.

Also, if you need nukes… well, you know who to call :smiley:

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Pls doublecheck that address. It was my best guess. Y’know, like “webmaster@” or “info@” whichever domains.

Half our in-house coding is eh ah uncompensated in terms of money but saves our sanity and time so we just do it. For our own sakes. Over here we run sendmail and postfix and a few others but not not not NOT exchange.

I am an employee at a place that uses MS Exchange servers for All Their Technology Needs. I have never hated Outlook more than when I clock in at that engineering firm. I wish my boss hadn’t been talked into using it, but she tends to lose smartphones on long site visits, extended surveys in rugged country, and stuff also gets dropped in mud and rain and stops working. Having a plug-and-play solution wrt calendaring, contacts and that friggin OuchLook email (which she is very used to) was pitched by our IT contractor and she bought in. Now when she loses a smartphone it’s a few hours of inconvenience, and IT dude just puts all of it back on the next [doomed] smartphone.

I do hate Outlook even more as a (very junior) sysadmin (my partner is Principal SysAdmin, Bloodied but Unbowed). How many times have you been called to unfuck someone’s machine or otherwise deal with a hacked email account, ransomed hard drive, network-wide penetrations etc. because malware got through, specifically designed to pass through Outlook’s gastrointestinal system undigested, undetected, and fully, lethally intact? In our own web business, my partner and I tell all clients up front we don’t support LookOut. Go away from my window–leave at your own chosen speed. I’m not the one you want babe. I’m not the one you need. We will only give remaining, duly chastened clients contact info for competent IT contractors who service MicroSuck specifically. /rant

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I used to kvetch about Outlook/Exchange… Then I started working for a place that used Notes. I have no bad words at all anymore for Outlook/Exchange. None. We were told that Notes was going away it took years and they finally just punted to a Microsoft cloud solution, which I can’t fucking use cause I work on a sensitive contract and I can’t use third party supplied email because of who I am contracted to so I still am stuck using notes for my paycheck providers email system.

ETA where I work has a really kick ass security team and the exchange admins know their stuff inside and out. And yes it is a big enough place that there is a group of admins that do the Exchange servers and nothing else.

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This guy I was talking with isn’t a friend nor is a mentor. If he were I wouldn’t be loathing his guts right now.

He’s a presumptive phony, who thought his own little “life lesson” was an appropriate method in a business setting.

I would have taken “I can’t help you” or “figure it out yourself” and been happy with that. Instead he chose to string me along.

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