Gendered objectification

Agreed.

You need to get on that; it’s vintage Guy Ritchie, before success tainted him.

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When I used to go on dates…:confused:

First Date flicks with me were always some arthouse or serious flick like The Crying Game, Schindler’s List, or My Winnipeg. The sole rom-com was When Harry Met Sally, while tripping on acid (don’t ask why - just go with it).

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Very interesting overall.

I’ve heard from many people that movies are a bad first date activity, because you’re supposed to be talking to your date, not sitting in silence in the dark.

I disagree, because at least for me, I tend to participate in conversation far easier than I initiate it, so unless I’m with a big talker or there’s a really amazing connection, the conversation will die down. There should be some activity during which neither of us is pressured to talk. Besides, you can tell a lot about someone from their choice of movie, how they watch a movie, and how they react to it.

As for your choice of movies, I don’t like overly sad movies, or movies that try to take themselves too seriously. I will read just about any type of book, or listen to any musical style, but when it comes to movies, I usually just like to be entertained. That doesn’t mean that I refuse to watch sad or serious movies, it’s just that I prefer not to. My friends probably look down on me for my taste in movies, but I don’t care anymore.

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I came across this and it was really to good not to share, especially since there are still men telling the women here that they we are just not visually stimulated by bodies of the opposite sex the way men are. It’s actually an excerpt from a marketing article:

"There is also one unwritten rule that we have seen work time and time again when it comes to marketing. Oh boy, we do like to watch a video starring hot males; in fact we are 88% more likely to do so if you appoint a really hot guy. If you don’t believe this, take a look at the below companies which took the risk and featured males in their campaigns.

I’m sure everyone remembers a TV advert that featured former NFL player, Isaiah Mustafa who was “the man, your man could smell like”. As females accounted for over half of the Old Spice purchases, this is a good indicator that Old Spice, together with the Wiener + Kennedy agency, came up with a campaign that was highly targeted for women. This video-centered campaign went viral and increased the sales figures by over 100%; not a bad result indeed.

Moonpig, the personalised card seller got it right when they featured a man in their TV advert. This eye-catching and attention-grabbing TV advert was made for the female audience. Again, a well-played video advert featuring a half-naked messy Joey.

There are no sales figures reported, but the advert went viral on Twitter within seconds.

This is another female-orientated advert that features men, who are not trying to sell anything, but convince ladies to run regular checks for breast cancer. The Rethink Breast Cancer campaign encourages females to download the free mobile app called Your Man Reminder.

Once you have download it (I did it straightway), you can choose your favorite guy who will remind you to make the necessary checks. What an excellent use of video and female attraction for an important cause."

I actually hate ads, but it’s nice to feel pandered to.

ETA really, watch the ads, especially the last one :kissing_closed_eyes:

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And @Melizmatic

Summer reading?

http://www.curbsidesplendor.com/books/body-horrors-essays-on-misogyny-and-capitalism

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The way I always saw it was that if you view a really interesting and thought-provoking film, then a really interesting and thought-provoking conversation can develop naturally from there. It’s really hard to drop one’s defenses when the movie you’ve just seen is akin to talking about the weather.

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There were two books I bought for my SiL

Porn for Women.

https://books.google.ca/books/about/Porn_for_Women.html?id=l_4qyo1ndfMC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Its not what you think. :wink:

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I expected that response. It’s typical of the responses I usually get. At least you stopped short of calling me shallow and anti-intellectual.

Again, I don’t like movies that are too serious or too sad, but that doesn’t mean that I only watch slap-happy screwball comedies. I like movies that are substantial, but not too serious, if that makes any sense. Humor is a rhetorical device, and there’s a place for it usually. I’m not sure why people think there’s a linear separation between comedies and intelligent movies, or even sad movies, for that matter. I just prefer movies that run the full spectrum of emotions over movies that are full-bore sadness and tragedy.

Maybe it has something to do with me being clinically depressed. I get anxiety at the thought of being stuck in a dark room for a couple hours, facing something overwhelmingly depressing, with not much opportunity to break away.

On the other hand, I have read many books that have left me bawling like a baby at the end. I’d be sitting in a coffee shop, reading the book over a cup of coffee, tears streaming down my face, people staring at me, but I don’t care. I usually like these books.

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I would never call you shallow or anti-intellectual. I’ve been following BB long enough to know you’re not that.
I’m only judging some films as shallow, which is just fine. I enjoy watching them too.

I’m only stating that I prefer viewing a deep film on a first date (and cafe and conversation afterward) to be able to cut through that initial layer of falseness that we project more quickly - to get to the heart of who that person is. Some people don’t. Maybe they prefer a more rigid protocol - X amount of dates before you reveal the real you.

There’s also the fact that I’m a cinemaphile, and knowing I’ve found another, it’s a real joy.

ETA: Actually, the Schindler’s List date was an eye-opener for me - which required a good, hard look in the mirror.
I found out from mutual friends that a second date would never occur because I mansplained when she asked a rhetorical question.
I’m not saying it doesn’t still happen, but I try to be more conscious of my own stupidity.

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It’s interesting that you say this, because I’ve heard from several people who say movies are a bad first date activity because you’re basically sitting in the dark with someone and not talking to them. I agree way more with you than I do with them. You can learn a whole lot about someone from how they watch a movie, Plus, movies are usually at ridiculously early times, so you would almost certainly have to have drinks or dinner afterward to fill up your evening, and there’s plenty of time to talk.

However, I would rather not get my guts ripped out over some weepy foreign film right off the bat, so we’ll have to agree to disagree there.

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I think this is particularly telling, in the cognitive sense. We men - deciding what women truly think and feel…and how to think and feel.

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Is it possible to check for breast cancer by licking?

Asking for a friend.

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So I’m another lady like @Melizmatic who actually likes to watch porn when I find what I like, but am too embarassed to say so…kind of cringing right now admitting it. I like erotica too.

I think this book is fun, but making me tea or vacuuming for me won’t result in sex unless it’s naked vacuuming :wink:

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Same. If it’s naked vacuuming, there doesn’t even have to be another person involved.

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If I’m not visually stimulated, why do my panties vaporize every time this guy smiles?

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I find it difficult to find porn I like, and not because the “looking for something new/weird” meme. I’m not actually sure what the intended audience is for most porn videos.

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For streaming sites at least, I think it goes back to that same old theme - the fear and hatred of women - especially in how much content is dedicated to utmost humiliation, degredation, ownership (women as property), and violation (which I believe is entirely separate from formal BDSM control themes - as far as either goes, neither are my fetish).
I mean, it’s so damn apparent even from the language used in the clip titles to give name to or describe the action/performer. I think so many non-professional uploaders will try any avenue they possibly can to spew their bile.
Don’t get me wrong, I am very sex and kink positive, but damn, these are people performing a service (is this a fair description?) for us by servicing one’s fetish. One would think we could put more effort into a more equitable balance - which some people are - but I think the porn that strives for balance is constantly engulfed by all the utter shit that gets posted.

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*lmao!

Great way to describe the visceral reaction that is instantaneous lust*.

I’m totally swiping it.

Speaking of which:

##**Poof!!!**

*(And in the case of Daveed Diggs, it’s completely understandable.)

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Then you really need to see Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

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I think pre-internet-porn you could get young men to pay the price of admission to the cinema on the promise of a single ten-second shot of breasts. In order to keep the tickets flowing, it was necessary to put this in every horror movie so that they knew what they were paying for.

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