Zimmerman was portrayed as either/or/both/etc because of his German/Jewish surname & equally white-bread given name.
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I found the original link where the journalist explains his reasoning for conducting the interview the most interest thing out of all of this.
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Mestizo is defined by a mixture of Native American and European blood, which I explained in my previous comment. The majority of South America is considered mestizo, which granted I assumed most people would know, so I admit I forgot to mention it in my last comment. Having a white name doesnât mean a whole lot considering that âwhiteâ names arenât exactly uncommon in South America.
Knowing these things, it is still quite curious how mestizos became âwhiteâ overnight, specifically considering that Zimmerman does not have âWhite Passing Privilege.â
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?? In North America he would not be defined as mestizo because of those who do know it, it is seen as derogatory, with good cause. Visible POC are referred to in the same terms as are used on the census forms generally, if they havenât been asked what they prefer.
If a news story comes out without a picture or an indeterminate picture (slightly dark skin tone in Florida doesnât mean much) then people draw (in ignorance) what the can from a name. No one in NA would assume George Zimmerman to be what here they would call Hispanic upon reading his name. Remember, North America.
& by âRemember, North Americaâ I mean that many people here see it or act as though they see things as there being POC & white, despite that being a silly thing.
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In North America he would not be defined as mestizo
We of course not, they would just be considered hispanic
it is seen as derogatory, with good cause.
No it isnât. It just means mixed heritage. There is absolutely no history of this word being used in a derogatory term here.
If a news story comes out without a picture or an indeterminate picture (slightly dark skin tone in Florida doesnât mean much)
That is subjective at best, and this was a national story, as in heard outside of Florida
No one in NA would assume George Zimmerman to be what here they would call Hispanic upon reading his name. Remember, North America.
Yep. Pretty white name. Really Hispanic looking guy. Mestizo.
In the US he would be considered Mexican.
You were saying something about being rational?
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It happened to the Irish too, welcome to America. Something something melting pot.
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You have provided the best explanation yet. Thank you!
I consider the following to be factual statements:
- Rob chose to neither confirm nor deny what you proposed, even though he replied directly to your post.
- You advised us to chill, Rob taunted us with the unlikelihood of that happening.
Rational societies do not advocate murder, but managing editors of popular blogs might choose to adapt the words of fictionalized, glamorized, serial killers in ways that are sufficiently arcane as to cause confusion, and then not address that confusion when the opportunity presents itself.
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Rational people do not complain about free ice cream when they donât like the flavor of the day. Rational people donât tell their hosts how to host. Rational people leave parties that theyâre not having fun at.
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::golfclap::
Itâs not every day someone has this many fucks to give about a tiny bit of satire.
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Good advice. Thank you.
That definitely didnât happen over night. You have JFK to thank for that.
Whatâs your point? I have definitely missed it.
I think the most relevant fact about Zimmerman is that he killed someone. If you want to focus on his skin tone, that says nothing about him, me, or anyone but you.
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You see, the Irish, and other Catholic nationalities like the Italians, only became âwhiteâ because JFK proved that being Irish/Catholic/Italian doesnât mean that you have only loyalty to the Pope by being a very charismatic person.
What you are implying is because a chubby hispanic shot a black kid, that America as a whole began to see hispanics as white. Which obviously didnât happen. Zimmerman was portrayed as white by the media because otherwise, there would not have been a media circus.
The point is that Zimmerman shooting a black kid is not Latin Americaâs JFK.
No. I am not.
I am saying that every group which comes to this country, becomes white. The italians beforre the irish, the germans before them, the poles after. All white now.
Look at the president. Heâs white now. Certainly not in skin tone, but white is nothing to do with skin color, truly. Weâre unlikely to agree on this, and I just wanted to say that I think youâre grandstanding about your own pet theories of racial identity, which have very little to do with this case, which is about a bully killing a kid more than it is about which box the bully and the kid belong in.
The bully belongs in his cell. The kid does not belong in his casket, but there he is.
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Well, quite.
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Good findâŚthanks for the link.
To be fair, itâs on the original Boing Boing page.
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