better condemn the well intentioned and applaud monsters then
or just point and laugh because everything is a joke
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In case anyone is interested, here is a list of book burnings on wikipedia (I’m sure not exhaustive), so you’re welcome to nitpick the list apart and show how both sides are evil…
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Those books were asking for it?
Jeebus - imagine if all those lost books survived.
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Perhaps I am in error in using the term PC. All I’m trying to express, is precisely what he says in the video. No, Carlin wouldn’t support using hurtful language, and neither do I. Here’s the deal, this is obviously contentious, and difficult to discuss well in a limited, virtual medium. So, this will probably not get resolved to anyone’s satisfaction, even if we type out the equivalent to a long novel over this. I do not excuse or tolerate racism, homophobia, misogyny, and the like. But as GC says in the video (which you appear not to have taken the time to watch, please do so before responding) there is no such thing as a “bad word”, it depends on the context, and the person saying it.
My concern, which probably is something other than PC, is the way language has been become a means of thought control, and aggressively so since the 1980’s (although this development precedes that decade, i.e. Edward Bernays, etc).
Compare and contrast- banned words on television today vs 1980.
Which had more banned words?
Edit: I can watch all sorts of things in my home that you couldn’t even find at a porno theatre in 1980. So - it’s not bad words - it’s being told not to be an asshole that faux pc worriers object to.
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Especially from antiquity… but in the modern era, archives are kind of the worse, because often there are multiple copies of mass produced books, but in archives, you have all manner of rarities that only exist in one or two places.
This is not new. It has happened since the invention of language. Language shapes our engagement and understanding of the word. We develop new and better, and hopefully, more inclusive ways of communicating, all the time. that’s not oppression that’s inclusivity. Perhaps one day, we’ll get to a point where particular kinds of language isn’t harmful and oppressive, but we are far from that day. Very far and getting farther all the time. Complaints about “PC” language is literally being used to strip your fellow human beings of their right to exist free from oppressive structures. This is happening right now, where right wing trollies are proclaiming that they are oppressed by the existence of people not like them, and that they reserve the right to make the world hostile to them, because the very EXISTENCE of other human beings is something they find offensive.
And once again, if someone is throwing around offensive terms in order to hurt others, that’s not acceptable and it’s going to get a reaction, which will hopefully be others saying “that’s hurtful, don’t do that” and the original person maybe learning something instead of digging in and yelling about how they’re being oppressed.
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Now, now…it’s only objectionable “fighting words” if you’re suggesting gun control.
Then “2nd amendment remedies” discussions aren’t threats.
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This is true in theory, but there is no way to divorce some words from their historical and social contexts. At the end of the day, the burden of how conmunication is recieved rests on the speaker. Avoiding certain words out of respect is no skin off the collective noses of people interested in working against the “isms” you’ve listed.
When I see complaints of “thought control” and “fascism” in reaponse to what amounts to metaphorically walking around dogshit on the sidewalk instead of stepping directly in it, I have to wonder what motivations are driving people’s desire to step in it.
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And on top of that, one can say whatever one likes… one shouldn’t then scream fascism when it turns out that there are consequences for one’s actions/speech.
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the above is where you went off the rails.
Whether you meant it or not, the phrasing “[something perceived as liberal or progressive] is fascism” is an unfortunate trope of truly uninformed alt-right assholes. That might or might not be the image you are trying to project. But when you use that structure, be aware that it is how many will perceive you.
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It lacks most of the features of fascism and is opposed to some of them.
http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf
I like George Carlin, but he was wrong about that.
I have PTSD, not shell shock. I have never been in a warzone, I had chuds thowing bricks at my windows shouting death threats for a year. I still thought they were going to kill me.
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Yes! Eco’s essay is a must-read. I think it continues to be the best description of what the word fascism actually refers to.
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that’s exactly what your “non-serious” question says. “#notallwhitepeople! Not me!” But yes all of us.
Not once did I deny “white privilege” nor was I implying “not all white people” (which goes far beyond privilege). It was me expressing my personal exasperation at the the antics of white people. so no not exactly that at all.
“Rice Paper Bible” should be a Christian stoner band, so I documented that fiction in the Gnomon Chronicles:
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Except it’s not fiction =). Yes, cheaper paper is sometimes used, but rice paper (and onionskin, to a lesser degree) is quite common.
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Using rice paper bibles to get high is nonfictional, I agree.
But I’m talking about the band Rice Paper Bible. This requires fictional documentation.
I haven’t documented all the details, other than the fact that the band is based in New Minneapolis, Canada. But these guys have a history, a career … like the band Spinal Tap, except Christian stoner rock.
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Ohhhh, I get it. Derp.
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Best known for inventing the 27/15 time signature
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That’s the spirit - !
I have added this fact fiction data to the Gnomon Chronicles:
“According to acclaimed music analyst DonatellaNobody, Rice Paper Bible is best known for inventing the 27/15 time signature.”
http://gnomonchronicles.com/wiki/Rice_Paper_Bible
PS, if you want to participate in full measure, you should be “acclaimed music analyst and Gnomon algorithm theorist DonatellaNobody”. I’ll leave that to your discretion.
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If it’s worth doing, its worth doing 27/15ths of the way.
I love it, thanks!
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