Google acquires robotics firm Boston Dynamics

Watergun?

Two questions. I wonder if weā€™re going to see these things spraying mace and terrifying people at protests soon. Second, it seems like youā€™d shoot one if it was coming at you. Are there going to be very stiff penalties for shooting a drone or robot? What if you claim self-defense? Will the penalties for shooting a robot in self-defense be greater than the penalty for shooting a person, especially if the person is poor and/or a minority? Then weā€™ll see exactly how human lives are valued.

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  1. Jibe with, not jive, unless youā€™re deliberately using the altered idiom.

  2. Itā€™s hard to argue that basic robotics research, even if the military is funding it, is inherently ā€œevilā€.

  3. As I understand it, ā€œDonā€™t be evilā€ may not actually mean what folks assume it means. According to the news report I heard, Google invented the phrase as a formal conversation-stopper in brainstorming sessions; if a participant felt something was an extremely bad idea, they could simply say ā€œThatā€™s Evilā€ and the idea would be abandoned without the objection having to be explained or defended, whether the idea was stupid, unprofitable, impractical, or evil in any usual sense. I have to emphasize that I may be wrong hereā€¦ but I think itā€™s worth emphasizing that we should not be putting too much reliance on that catchphrase. Itā€™s a tool, and perhaps a statement of how they want to approach the world, not a guarantee that itā€™s always going to be the highest priority or indeed that it will always be followed.

Frankly, I prefer IBMā€™s catchphrase: THINK.

I afraid I have some bad news for youā€¦

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Nailed it. Itā€™s a catchphrase, nothing more.

Coined by the guy who accepted a medal from Hitlerā€¦

ā€œ[ā€¦] The most recent study of the matter, however, argues that Watson believed, perhaps naively, that the medal was in recognition of his years of labor on behalf of global commerce and international peace.[5] Watson soon began second-guessing himself for accepting the medal, and eventually returned the medal to the German government in June 1940. German Chancellor Adolf Hitler was furious at the slight, and he declared that Watson would never step on German-controlled soil again.ā€ (quoth Wikipedia)

There are some valid questions around IBMā€™s actions in that period, but this really isnā€™t one of them.

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And yes, Iā€™ve actually read it.

My point is: donā€™t expect ethical behaviour from very large corporations.

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Thatā€™s one authorā€™s conclusions, with an axe to grind. There are others, You can find them as easily as I, and itā€™s offtopic, so Iā€™m going to leave it at that.

Fair enough.

Both in terms of sound effects and appearance, was no one else reminded of this:

http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Houndeye

  1. Iā€™d like to say it was a typo considering that v & b are neighbors on QWERTY but I must admit, Iā€™ve never seen the expression in writing. I thought the expression had musical roots, I take it the expression is rooted in fighting (that in a fight the one wouldnā€™t hold up against the other) and not nautical (the boom just whacked the crew on the head or something).

  2. Itā€™s hard to argue that the military has humanitarian intentions in mind, but then again they might have Richard Gatling on the staff. I just hope they have the conscience to know when to say ā€œNow I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.ā€ meh. Iā€™m being overly dramatic.

  3. That makes sense.

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It would make far more sense to stash it deep in a bunker, with multiple backups, and operate a variety of mobile units remotely.

Gybe is the nautical term, but it is hard to gybe with something. Iā€™ve always thought it was ā€˜jive withā€™.

Google has said they will honor existing contracts but do not intent to be a military supplier. As I said above, I much prefer Google owning them than Lockheed or (much worse) Blackwater or something.

I can think of hundreds, thousands of ideas for autonomous robots that donā€™t involve killing people. I can also think of a number of ideas that would render most militaries obsolete and/or inneffective, which are also somewhat appealing. It amazes me that in an age of drones our governments are spending any money at all on fighter plane development meant to have people inside them. The military with 1 million, or 20 million, cheap drones in the air will vaporize any F35s that wander in. The country with 10 million cheap underwater drones will vaporize any sub or navy that gets pushy.

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No, Iā€™d keep the backups in several bunkers and take a mobile unit to explore far away places. Communication delay at a distance earth - moon is 1.3 seconds already. You see where Iā€™m going here.

However, an other idea just struck me - the legal problems of all this.
Picture this: you bulid a multi-billion technological empire and use itā€™s resources for making you (your mind, that is) immortal by downloading your memories, your conciousness, your personality - in short, your self into a computer or whatever.
Would you still be the owner of your worldly assets?
Could a backup of your self sue you for divorce and/or custody?
And so on and so on.

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Science fiction has plumbed these depths with some truly amazing books. BBs own Doctorow has gone into it a bit - Rapture of the Nerds has a scene in which the main character duplicates himself multiply to battle another traitorous copy of himself in court (then gets outmaneuvered). Mindbendingly fun.

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Iā€™m not sure the answers to any of those questions are gonna cheer me upā€¦

ā€œJibeā€ is an accepted spelling of the nautical term, according to the dictionary. Preferred, in the US. The dictionary also gives ā€œagreeā€ as a definition of ā€œjibeā€; there is no such definition for ā€œjiveā€.

(You may be thinking of another term, or this may be regional spellings.)

As some one who has sailed, Iā€™d say that to jibe with is to maneuver on/onto a parallel courseā€¦ and that it isnā€™t all that hard to jibe with another ship in that sense.

Can someone remind me, whatā€™s wrong with horses again?

Obligatory Futurama:

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No brake, no clutch, no off-switchā€¦

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Huh. Learn something new everyday.
Iā€™ve always heard it expressed as ā€œto jiveā€ with something is to be in agreement.
Iā€™ve always assumed it had to do with dancing, (jump jive and wail etc.) where two people dancing well together are in agreement.