and you would be correct.
the very vocal, barking lunatics may be very loud, but they are still a tiny minority.
yet the damage those idiots cause is real and must not be written off.
that the locals here wish to protect ourselves from that minority is very much discussed and understood. the number of resident locals vaccinated in Monroe County is near 70% (compared to statewide at around 40%). the islands are a huge tourist draw and, this being Florida, means a lot of unvaxxed maskholes chartering fishing tours, then drinking in the bars, staying in the rents, hotels and resorts and pose a real threat to the relatively small population of actual residents (at some times of year tourists outnumber locals 4 to 1).
but then, you live in a high risk touristy location that is experiencing similar outbreaks, so you already know all this and, yeah, why the yeomen among us take the wise approach and remain masked.
I’ve been noticing this from people whose statements I’ve come across online, but I do actually know from real life circles, that claim to be “perfectly healthy,” in regards to taking risks and how their immune system might react regarding covid.
Clinically obese? “Perfectly healthy.”
Eligible for AARP? “Perfectly healthy.”
Two packs a day for three decades? “Perfectly healthy.”
Pre Diabetic? “Perfectly healthy.”
Hypertensive? “Perfectly healthy.”
It seems like there’s a certain personality type that, if they don’t feel like they’re on death’s door, that must mean they’re fit as a fiddle.
So he was denied an ECMO machine (unsafe to move, unfit candidate, emergency contingency rules) and his kidneys have failed. I’d be shocked if he survived the weekend.
Regardless of the hilariously ironic situation he’s gotten himself into this ‘logic’ he has is about as sound as a chocolate teapot.
Did anyone mention to him that many of the most vulnerable can’t receive the vaccine, and that he needs to get one to protect them, not himself?
Appealing to a conservatives selflessness is a bit of a pointless battle but if he’s going to choose to put himself and others at risk he should understand what it is he’s actually doing.
Also it’s a highly communicable virus - why did he think his odds were low of catching it?
Kidney failure is bad news. Without dialysis, a person won’t last long. My dad passed due to organ failures after a two-year battle with cancer, and his kidneys shutting down was a part of it. That’s why I can’t help but feel some sympathy for the family; it’s damn hard to watch it happen to someone you love.
I can only hope that this will convince some people to get vaccinated, so at least some good can come out of this.
I ain’t no Buddhist but you’re a better person than I am. Bravo and I don’t mean any sarcasm. Anti-vaxxers fill me with so much hate (nurse who specializes in airborne viruses (tb)) and I don’t want to poison myself with wishing ill on such a person. Sometimes I gotta say fuck that guy and sometimes I need to say (to quote someone stronger than me):
This is the key. We (Dems) can and do disagree on how to fix the disasters we are facing, but at least recognize that there is a disaster. This is true of climate change, Covid, poverty and etc. The only disaster the right seems to recognize is too many people voting. They are trying to fix that one, of course.
There were just 52,000 new daily covid cases in the country, but 21,000+ of them were in Florida. When the state has almost half the entire country’s new covid cases (but only 6% of the population), people are going to start realizing how dire the situation is and wear masks…
Oh, they probably have. (When a lot of Republican politicians were getting sick, I saw a number of conspiratorial “Weird how only the Republicans are getting ill, isn’t it!?” comments.) It conflicts with their denial that covid is serious, but that’s but a minor bit of cognitive dissonance compared to their usual load.
You have far more faith in humans being willing to reject tribal identifiers, even when faced with existential threats, than I do.
Oh, you misunderstand - I’m just saying that when things are as dire as they are in Florida, everyone who wasn’t totally brainwashed about wearing a mask started wearing one. But obviously most people haven’t been doing what they should be doing, or they wouldn’t be in such a dire situation in the first place…
For those concerned, the family updated that he is now in grave condition and needs a miracle to survive this. They’ve also removed all updates prior and set their profiles private.
This is nearing the end.
Is anybody though? I mean really? Self-inflicted stupidity often doesn’t merit concern. Inflicting that stupidity on others merits only scorn, and that’s all I have for this jackhole. Good riddance.
I mean he’s using up an ICU bed that might need to go to someone else.
I’ll save my handwringing for people who weren’t committing murder by proxy by using a public platform to discourage public health measures. Every second he spends on a vent, while wasteful, does provide a reminder to his listeners that this is real, that the risk is dire and maybe, just maybe they should act like decent human beings, because there is a cost to ignoring a pandemic.
After a certain point, I don’t care. The good information was public, he worked actively to obscure that good information. While he was on the air he was an active threat to the public. Once he was hospitalized and started his mea culpa routine, that threat was reduced. I wish him a perfectly happy recovery, but I am actively happy that he is off the air and changing his statements. If the disease is what that took, I’m not going to pretend to shed tears because people were dying from his advice. I won’t cry when Manson dies and I won’t if he does.
I’m all in on the first part, but not the second half. The Democratic party as an entity seems to have decided that landing a half step left of the suicidal death cult that the Republicans represent is sufficient.
A lot of issues simply can’t be empirically measured. There is no good objective metric for freedom, justice, or equality, despite what some NGOs will tell you. That being said, I’m unaware of any situation where extending equal rights to any group has been bad, so we have some strong guidance. In the areas we can measure, like debt/deficit we can generally see the Dems coming out objectively better. Zooming down to the state level we can see the pattern in objectively measurable health and educational outcomes, though that gets hazier at the local levels.
Just thought I’d bring this up since people in some kind of weird mandela effect haven’t remembered, Charles Manson died 3 years ago.
Yeah, I completely forgot, but thankfully we are light on serial killers who used persuasion as their key weapon, so I probably still would have used it, but just past tense.
It’s all fake.
The guy is really a right-wing crisis actor hired by the Proud Boys to perform a false flag operation to reveal Obama Care’s “Death Panels” and…um…take away your guns!
The good information was public, he worked actively to obscure that good information. While he was on the air he was an active threat to the public. Once he was hospitalized and started his mea culpa routine, that threat was reduced. I wish him a perfectly happy recovery, but I am actively happy that he is off the air and changing his statements. If the disease is what that took, I’m not going to pretend to shed tears because people were dying from his advice.
For me, this is it. Full stop. Thank you for putting it so well.
The larger point I was trying to make is that this guy, although powerfully wrong, still seems deserving of some degree of compassion. Or at the very least is probably not deserving of having people get excited about his possible death. To me that is different from actually lamenting his misfortune, which I don’t.
Were people on the board actually excited about his possible death? Probably not. Some of the responses seemed callous, though, and so I fired off a hot take when I should have kept it to myself. So it goes.
