He-Man fans hate the new series because it has too much Teela in it

I dunno but if I were working in entertainment I’d steer clear of franchises that were popular with mostly men and boys for a decade or so.

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You really undercut your own argument about misogyny, when you use misogynistic language yourself. :woman_shrugging:

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Yeah, they could have had Skeletor zap Orko with the Havok staff 2 minutes into the movie and removed his flying ability. Then you could have had the same actor with less make up, ala a jawa costume, like you said.

I remember seeing this movie in the theaters. My grandma took us.

I was like - who the fuck are all these people?

It was bad enough that nothing looked a lot like the cartoon or toy - which I understand now you have to realistic it up a bit. But I think my young brain would have handled it better if ALL of the characters were established characters. Except maybe for that snake guy who Skeletor kills off. I guess it is good to have one new guy you don’t care about if you are going to off someone.

And like Teela. Loved her outfit as a kid because of the whole cobra look. I realize they couldn’t make an exact copy, but maybe give her costume a snake motif, And she still could have used a staff vs a gun. There were too many guns in that movie (gasp, something I never thought I’d say!)

Oh well.

One other comment - people will note even excluding the later comics, there were TWO versions of early lore. The first were the mini comics included with the toys. They told a completely different story about everyone. And then the Filmation show built up different lore, including the whole Prince Adam and transformation.

I think the fans would have forgiven the filmmakers if they just left out the hovering part entirely as long as they made some effort to make the character look and act like his cartoon counterpart.

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There is a frightful hobgoblin haunting Eternia - The hobgoblin of communism.

It would explain why Orko wears red in the cartoons

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I rather liked the Voltron reboot, I could barely even watch the original when I re-watched it before the reboot came out.

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I watched up to the poison chalice ep and i admit i am off work with terrible ear acke and can not sleep or eat, but i was board buy it and could only think of Cersei Lannister, but i thought it was a strange way to start the show, but taking away the lead char.

It did not really make sense to me, and just felt like an excuse to mix it up and introduce other chars and try and make he man less of the focus of the show. I dont know I will prob try and pick it up again tomorrow as i doubt i will go to work tomorrow, but evil lin drags me out of the world, just like she does when she does the used BMW adverts on classic FM here in the UK. Cersei Lannister is eveil so she may be a good fit, but she is just to well know for being Cersei Lannister…

Having watched it now i gotta be honest and say it was surprisingly good, way better than it has any right to be given the filmsy source material. If it had been a straight up rehash of that, as most of the first ep appears it’s going to be, then it would have been instantly forgettable. However, you’ve got minor characters given some decent complexity that you come to really care about (even Cringer has an essential part for Preternia’s sake) and some thought gone into the world building. So yeah, i’m now looking forward to seeing where it goes.

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The forth and fifth episodes was astonishingly good, actually. I loved the character development each character received. The animation quality was decent. It felt like a fusion of 2000s anime and the 1970s filmation series, and I. am. here. for. it.

The “debate” was never about quality, or about the story: the discourse around animation is driven by ideological dingdongs who are mad that animation is no longer solely aimed at their imagined six year old, white, male, heteronormative selves. If He-Man, the original series, was made today, you’d see dorks like The Beardening ranting about “the anti-family feminizing gay agenda”.

To the lamers, blamers, and haters out there: build a bridge and get over your selves. Either enjoy the story or shut up; stop injecting your white hetero politics into children’s entertainment. Animation and pop culture is for everyone; nobody has “ruined” your favorites. You can watch them at any time, often on convenient round discs that you claim to love so much. Hell, you can even still get newly cast toys of the old characters, right now, in stores. But you’re not the only audience for this. Pop culture is global now, and every kid of every shade and shape deserves to be included.

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41 years old and I still have all of them. 7 year old me loved those toys so much.

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I had some of them as a kid, but no longer.

Did you watch the She-Ra reboot! It was really great.

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You remind me of an old maxim that I became aware of during Babylon 5, which helped me through The Expanse and Star Trek: Discovery and Sweet Tooth…

…never judge a series on the first episode.

I think happy mutants will like the series, and if it were a part of my childhood I would too. Kevin Smith is a good storyteller, I just won’t praise or denigrate something I haven’t seen.

I am getting the impression, though, that the fans that are complaining are doing so because complaining gives them a sort of joy. That sort of malicious pleasure you feel when finally, finally there is something you can bite and kick and let your pent-up resentment at life out on. I want to compare it to the Simpson’s Comic Book Guy, but I must admit I stopped watching The Simpsons after the third season for reasons I can’t remember.

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That’s an interesting quote.

For most of my life I was dogmatic that video is at least as important as any other art, since it’s the art that people actually engage with. But the older I get, the less I really believe that. Movies and TV have to be constantly remade or they fade away, whereas a book or play is rebooted each time someone reads it.

If a young whippersnapper reads The Tempest or Catcher in the Rye, they’re getting everything past generations got, but if they watch the rebooted Wicker Man or Taking of Pelham 123 they’re just getting microwaved leftovers. You might say 2001 or Chinatown have more of the quality of books in this respect, but I’m not even sure about that, and anyway that’s not how most people approach movies.

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