He-Man fans hate the new series because it has too much Teela in it

Not sure the reminder is actually necessary, but whatever floats your boat.

Again, that determination lies in the eyes of the beholder…

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wasn’t about death and grim reality.

Well, it did have a buff guy that looked like a skeleton and absolutely no melanin involved, and another buff guy with blonde melanin and 100% not calling that his energy. And swords, which were to be used at some extent. So there was a tension of what was going to fill that, and it was mostly nothing and blocking.

100% wasn’t about a toy because that s— was phoned in at best. If the new stuff doesn’t have a subscription box…

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New band name.

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TMNT has had a lot reboots, and some have been good, but it didn’t start as a toy commercial. It started as a gritty comic, and just became a vehicle for toy sales after.

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Yeah but in that case I don’t think the original cartoon was conceived as a means for selling toys like He-Man, Transformers, G.I. Joe, My Little Pony, etc.

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It wasn’t.

By the early 90’s, many cartoons had pivoted to having actual content, especially offerings from Disney like DT, Tailspin, Chip & Dales Rescue Rangers, & Goof Troop.

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DuckTales was ‘87 but it more or less set the stage for that whole Disney TV renaissance. By the mid-90s they were also expanding toward teen audiences with (comparatively) more mature offerings like Gargoyles.

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Sure, let’s nitpick about exact dates; why not?

We would not be overinvested nerds who know tons of useless pop trivia otherwise…

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Somebody gets me!

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You are seen, you are heard.

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On the whole subject of reboots and reissues, I have three different types of reboots:

  1. The core material is taken, but the serial numbers and brand names are filed off:
    • Warcraft was Warhammer but without the licensing fees Games Workshop wanted
    • Star Wars was a remix of the old Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers serials
    • He-Man was a cash-grab of the Schwarzenegger Conan movies, just blond and with leftover scace opera accessories.
  2. Reboots that continue the original story
    • the current Star Trek, as both the Kelvin Timeline and the new CBS series retain all the old canon
    • the 2006 reboot of Doctor Who, which at first seemed like a clean start but then bit by bit did fold the old series into its lore
    • all of those Gilligan’s Island and Brady Bunch reunion movies
  3. Reboots that only keep the names and some details, but otherwise try to tell a new tale
    • Battlestar Galactica
    • Some of the ways DC has tried to reboot their superhero franchises, with the New 52 and such, their non connected worlds, and so on
    • My Little Pony

Kevin Smith has shown how good he is at doing number two with Green Arrow: Quiver, and shows that for all of his irreverence he does respect the Roman Catholic mythos he grew up with. So maybe he is the right guy to take this turd, bake it and polish it, and sell it as a coprolite. And maybe I am just full of bullshit, but as the Principia Discordia says, bullshit makes the flowers grow, and that’s beautiful. Am I rambling? Yes. Ah, coffee!

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When the original Battlestar Galactica was made in 1978, 20th Century Fox sued Universal, alleging copyright infringement and plagiarism of Star Wars. Universal counter-sued, alleging that Star Wars had ripped off Silent Running and the Buck Rogers serials,

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I suspect Mel Brooks Yogurt might have been our most realistic evaluator of commercial entertainment…

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IIRC, it wasn’t just Silent Running, I read that they presented a long list of SF properties Universal had released over the decades that Star Wars had elements of and Fox dropped the suit.

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GIJoe predates the 80’s, but that’s a toy franchise that’s done well. I never owned the dolls or watched the shows or movies, but I liked the Community episode:

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It being Disney, though, I don’t think the show was produced without consideration for merchandise. Maybe not toys, but clothing, party supplies, Valentine’s Day cards, etc. Considering how expensive their shows were, they likely went in with grand plans for a return on investment. Not to mention that all Disney essentially sells all of Disney. '87 was the launch of DuckTales as well as the Disney Store, and the stores creeped throughout there US as the Disney Afternoon expanded.

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This. Exactly this.

Problem is, you can’t go back in time, and you can’t remake an old classic to be what you imagined it to be when you were a kid and still appeal to modern audiences. You can only hope the reboot is clever and charming enough to get past the nostalgia trap. My Little Pony managed it, and to some extent, She-Ra managed it, but they are exceptions to the rule.

For the record, I really liked the Thundercats reboot, but I wasn’t a huge fan of the original.

On a similar topic, I understand the Russo Brothers are working on a reboot of Battle of the Planets. I don’t have high hopes for that.

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Jesus people- this isn’t high art like Bugs Bunny.

It was a bad cartoon for 5 year olds.

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Give me the high sign! (waves fingers under chin)

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It’s about ethics in cartoon programming, not misogyny as suggested by the casual use of a gendered slur…

Jinx.

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