Here's a video montage of Gordon Ramsey being served execrable seafood dishes

Interestingly enough I concur. The only one of his shows I watch is master chef jr. I’ve seen clips of the others and find it irritating.

My last bastion for reality tv competition shows is Top Chef. Generally it’s drama free now a days. It was dreadful for a few years. I wish Face off had kept going.

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You greatly misunderstood the points I was trying to make. But I will absolutely respect your wish to disengage and I’m sincerely sorry if our discussion caused you any distress.

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I think the problem might be that if you go to these eponymous Gordon Ramsey “franchise” restaurants (as opposed to the Michelin-level restaurants), the quality just isn’t there.

Same. Whats incredible about MC, Junior is the children are so much more sincere, interesting, and passionate about the craft (as well as being equally talented as any adult). For me, the adult MasterChef show and the contestants are dry, superficial, uninspiring.

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Plus for reasons of narrative. Scripts or rough scenarios are written, producers give instructions, and everyone involved plays their part.

Reality TV is an evil business even by television standards. The only series that’s shown a modicum of decency is the new Queer Eye show, where some room seems to be made for a modicum of compassion toward the show’s subjects.

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Face-Off is off the air? That’s another rare one I could give a pass to; because of the immense creativity and transformation that is involved.

Yep, hence the reason I always use scare quotes when talking about any “reality” show: there ain’t no actual reality therein.

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yeah. it ended after its 13th season. It was also different for how helpful and caring contestants were to one another. It was rather unique.

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I was just trying to be funny, I swear! I didn’t knew you actually worked in the food industry, that’s awesome and I admire you even more! :slight_smile:

Sorry for the tease.

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I love you too.

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Being familiar with a restaurant featured on his show, I think not. I’d have been a hell of a lot harsher had I been in his place.
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No True Chefsman.

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I have a wonderful aunt who for many years prepared (not any more; getting on in years), at home, ill-represented, relatively obscure Puerto Rican and Spanish recipes for sale to local restaurants in Brooklyn who – apparently – didn’t have the skill, time, or patience to do the heavy lifting. Cook… freeze… deliver. She knew (and probably still knows) hundreds of recipes by heart and had her own variations. Whenever I visit there, I’m treated like a king, and the food – god the food! – would just keep coming. She hovers over us at the table… and beams (as other things bubble away in her kitchen).Good cooking requires attention to detail, and love of people drives that. (Now I’m salivating.)

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He is a chef. You EARN that title with years of sweat and possibly (probably) some blood. Sure, he’s opinionated. He’s a chef. You don’t just fucking pay some culinary school to bestow that upon you. You fucking EARN it. And, comparatively, he’s fairly nice. I know.

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This is precisely why we are back there and you are enjoying your meal. Things have to be done in split seconds, for hours at a time.And someone has to be in control. At all times. 24 hours a day. I’ve worked for chefs who were bastards (at least during the working hours). There is no time for mistakes. I had to work with a manager that wanted to immediately talk about mistakes (they happen) and you cannot DO that. No time. Fix it move on. This is high pressure stuff, especially in the high end.

Must add that I highly value my experience in restaurants. esp. high end ones.

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I ought to note here that Anthony Bourdain (who I am still mad at for committing suicide) also considered himself an asshole chef in Kitchen Confidential. It was his view that the high-pressure, testosterone-fuelled atmosphere of most kitchens made that the norm. A normal kitchen team would be superficial assholes as a form of camaraderie, a way of not letting stress get to you. And then near the end of the book he points out great (in his eyes) New York chefs who break the mould he just outlined.

All this to point out that in the very few moments when I did accidentally tune in, Gordon Ramsey was never the caricature asshole: it did seem that he had only respect for the waitstaff, and did want to identify and solve specific issues, but then I would change the channel or give up on the television altogether.

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The guys a clown no matter what else he is.
He uses a cliche about my former industry to get rich.
I’ve no use for him.

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If Chefs focused on food more and less on being hams we’d all be better off.

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Hold up on that. So are you suggesting that if someone is a Chef than all they can do is focus on cooking?

So dancers only get to dance?
Singers only can sing?
Boxers only box?

You get where I am going here…people are not defined solely by their career choices. And there are plenty that are multi-talented and want to do more than just that one job for the rest of their lives.

That line of thinking is literally no different than right wingers saying “Football players should stick to playing football, not taking socio-political stands over the anthem”.

Human beings are not one note.

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Um, yeah…

Some Chefs are better Chefs than TV hams. Just say’n.

Man… this thread, tho…

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