How to: avenge yourself on the Republicans who voted to nuke your healthcare

Such as? Buying our own lobbyist and funding campaigns? It wouldn’t be them making a stink at first, but the healthcare and pharma industries wonder in where their customers went.

The system is broken, there is no fixing it. The ACA, as flawed as it was, was the best you can expect from private insurance. And they took all that new customer money to lobby against the same customers interest.

I think the entire economy should be boycotted for change, but this is a high priority start. School teaches failing to act against DeVos don’t realize they lost everything by not doing so. Yet.

I don’t think that Americans voluntarily becoming homeless and hungry is a good way to fix things.[quote=“middlewaytao, post:61, topic:100431”]
Such as? Buying our own lobbyist and funding campaigns?
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Voting would be a good start.
Promoting voting as a good way to enact change is another.
Both of those things took a big hit last year. If we’re going to have people in office who can change things, Americans who want change are going to have to be a whole lot less jaded about their vote mattering at all.

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So your proposed solutions can be summarized as:

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Well, I outright refuse to buy an product other than undergarments and food while these Jokers are in control. This started a day after the election. I am even wary of at eating at a local ethnic restaurant cause I don’t know who’s really profiting off it. I don’t agree to the terms of any of it and I am not about to buy a product were some secret republican investor is making all the profit.

But healthcare is easy, its a tangible concrete goal.

This argument is a lot like those that were buying from slaveowners so the slaves could be fed. The ones that only tried to purchase from the kind slave owners were the ones that enabled it, putting s kind face to it.

Your solution is to continue to fund republicans and then whine about the outcome.

Its easy to sit there in a place of privilege and tell others to wait. Ive already acted.

You are the exact same type of person who is fine with things till they effect them personally, then it will be all about you still.

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I don’t think that word is in Bannon’s vocabulary.

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I’m sure that he’s all in favour of everyone being equal… as long as some are allowed to be more equal than others.

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That’s not my solution. I don’t control what my healthcare provider does with its profits. But I’m not going to die in ten years for my ideals by forgoing my coverage and going without my medication. Your proposal is completely impractical. You can’t get any traction to make it happen so proposing it is proposing suicide. Anyone who attempts your solution is putting themselves and their families at risk. It’s probably only a less-dangerous idea for people in their 20s who don’t live dangerously, were fortunate to have good genes and not prone to disease, and even then I wouldn’t recommend it if you have the ability to get coverage.

You don’t know me or my history. I went for years without medical coverage or subpar medical coverage that I didn’t use because I couldn’t afford my deductibles. It already has affected me. I worked full time while putting myself through school and taking out student loans to get a degree to get a job that actually provides decent healthcare coverage and a living wage with which I support my family.

The current system isn’t ideal. It’s not the way I’d do it if I had any real power. As I already said, I support a single payer system. But you’re attacking the wrong people.

And quoting MLK Jr. speaking on an unrelated topic with solutions to a very different problem is a real bullshit approach. But at least you have your self-righteousness.

To give up my healthcare coverage as a symbolic (and powerless, unnoticeable gesture) is the equivalent of a white man in the 60s giving up food and dying instead of just boycotting “whites only” restaurants. You can do more good alive than dead, except maybe if you’ve already been a very effective symbolic figure like MLK whose death actually meant something to the country more than the deaths of the other innocent black men who were killed during that era.

“The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.”

That you’re willing for me to die for your ideals reveals your selfishness, not mine.

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California is working on it. I’m skeptical whether this can survive the political process, even in lefty California, but at least someone is trying.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/california-weighs-huge-health-care-remake-dumping-insurers-47034484

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So as long as you are comfortable it’s not a problem. Got it. We can do it without you.

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Wait, I thought it was important that I die for your cause. Now you can do it without me? So why did I need to die again?

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I honestly don’t know anyone who would be willing to you up on that wager are except maybe people with nothing to lose.

The stakes are high. The that people who are stuck in the system as it is are not responsible for it.

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Maybe its the illusion of prosperity, people just cant come to grips with their lives literally being worth less than most medical procedures.

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Alternately:

…which is probably the only way to overthrow TrumpGOP short of civil war.

Not a chance of that happening in the USA, though. Y’need unions to pull off something like that.

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Bernie Sanders can’t replace Nancy Pelosi to become the House Minority Leader as Bernie Sanders is a Senator.

The Senate minority leader is Chuck Schumer.

Your numbers appear to be way off what I found.

According to TargetSmart, the total number of voters registered in October 2016 was 200,081,377.

Also the Voting-Eligible Population (VEP) was 230,585,915.

The Voting-Age Population (VAP) was 250,055,734.

The difference between VEP and VAP is non-citizens, ex-felons, prisoners, parolees and those on probation.

Vermont doesn’t have party registration. Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) isn’t a registered Democrat either. It merely takes telling the Senate leadership that he now wants to be listed as a Democrat rather than an Independent, though as mentioned above, he still couldn’t become the House Minority Leader in the Senate.

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I don’t think public school teachers realize they have completely lost that battle through inaction.

My mistake. I wasn’t thinking. That said, yeah, he’d do a better job than Chuck.

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