OT, but I wonder if theyâre going to change that time to 11:59:59 tomorrow at noon.
Itâs always a day awayâŚ
Iâve been wondering this myself. Weâre already at 3 minutes which is our closest to annihilation that weâve been to since 1984.
Between having a madman running the country who thinks using nukes on our enemies is a swell idea to North Korea continually upping their ICBM game I wouldnât be at all surprised to see us going to 2 minutes (aka 1953 levels).
Maybe Robâs safe will contain world peace.
But not the evil genie kind, where that peace is achieved through some horrific method, such as turning everyone in to cows or something.
I kind of think thatâs what itâs going to take.
Why? No need to nuke your emplo-- er, your great friend Vlad.
There might be some tension with China, but then Putin will broker an agreement and look A Great Statesman.
Nuclear holocaust is probably the only thing we wonât see in the next 4 years.
Hopefully not the slightly deaf/stupid/pun-loving genie kind, either.
(Itâd be just fitting for this group to get a pun-loving genie, after all)
Surely Iâve exceeded
Expectations
Tried for three years.
Seems like thirty.
Youâre assuming only two countries have nukes. Think about all the aggressions around the world, where one of the countries involved either has the capacity or is very close to it, and now consider international relations devolving into chaos with no way of monitoring those knife-edge situations.
There arenât that many scenarios where nukes are a factor beyond US-Russia-China relations. In fact, there are two: India-Pakistan, which is basically out of everyoneâs hands regardless, and Israel-Saudi/Iran, where one side cannot retaliate without assistance from US or Russia and where the rise of Trumputin makes little difference anyway. The leave of absence of the US as a brokering power in these situations will simply be covered by Russia. There is no chaos. If anything, there is more order; Putin is all about order.
Sorry, I remain of my opinion: one of the very few silver linings of Putin having a man in the White House, is that nuclear holocaust on a significant scale (for me Westerner, at least) is actually much less likely.
(Note: I willingly discount North Korea, since their capabilities are pretty ridiculous and China could basically reduce them to zero overnight in any serious situation. It falls squarely under China-US relations.)
And donât forget North Koreaâs mediocre (but nonstop) attempts against South Korea, which I would argue is the only one that is truly âout of everyoneâs handsââŚor rather, out of the U.S. and Russiaâs hands.
In all of those circumstances, the aggression is toward neighbors, but the fallout would spread much further and there could well be a domino effect of worldwide war.
I think youâre discounting how much diplomacy has been orchestrated by the U.S. and allies at the international level.
Nah, itâs part of Chinaâs little play for the southern region. The Chinese wonât allow nuclear explosions in their backyard, theyâll sooner wipe out the regime - which they can do overnight, since their armies donât care for things like human rights and collateral casualties. They just use NK for brinkmanship and to bleed US resources, nothing more.
No, I think you are discounting how much diplomacy has not been orchestrated by Russia since 1989. Syria was the first step towards rolling back the clock, which is the whole plan for Putin. Possible US withdrawals from various scenarios will simply see a return to mid-XX century levels of Russian involvement in global diplomacy. I can see Trump even sponsoring that, introducing âhis great friendâ to this or that convention.
I hope it wonât take a nuclear holocaust to open the safe, btw.
