Edward I really rubbed it in the Scots noses - putting it under his throne.
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Ah! Some of those students were rooming at an aunt’s place.
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Stole? I think the word is “retrieved”.
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j9c
December 20, 2018, 3:06pm
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And here I thought that Pratchett’s story
https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Scone_of_Stone
was a feat of total imagination! O Pterry, we miss you so much.
It was the 1950s student jape that re-ignited Scottish nationalism. As the 'liberation' of the Stone of Destiny is turned into a film, ringleader Ian Hamilton, now 83, tells Olga Craig why he is still proud of the heist.
I salute you, Ian Hamilton!
Here’s the Hamilton tartan by way of thanks:
https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=1576
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This is a fun fictionalised movie about the caper:
Stone of Destiny is a 2008 Scottish-Canadian historical adventure/comedy film written and directed by Charles Martin Smith and starring Charlie Cox, Billy Boyd, Robert Carlyle, and Kate Mara. Based on real events, the film tells the story of the removal of the Stone of Scone from Westminster Abbey. The stone, supposedly the Stone of Jacob over which Scottish monarchs were traditionally crowned at Scone in Perthshire, was stolen by King Edward I of England in 1296 and placed under the throne at We...
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As I understand it, putting a ‘sacred stone’ under a throne’s seat used to be quite common. Mystical tradition; the stones would bring ‘sacred energy’ into the ruler or something like that.
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Then, just over 300 years later, a Scot sat on the throne of England.
I don’t think Edward I thought that through properly.
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AlexG55
December 21, 2018, 9:06am
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Scone in this context is pronounced to rhyme not with “stone” or “gone” but with ‘‘spoon’’.
(Although Shakespeare rhymes it with ‘‘one’’ in the last two lines of Macbeth )
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d_r
December 21, 2018, 9:36am
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IIRC, Roger Daltry had something to do with it.
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j9c
December 24, 2018, 12:04am
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This interests me.
Would you be willing to list your source(s) or citation(s) here?
Whenever possible, I try to sound the least idiotic I can manage, and I thank you in advance for your help. As a U.S. midwesterner, with a love of history and the English language it all its variable forms, I find it does take work every single day.
Sometimes the work is fun:
https://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/676991850/wait-wait-for-dec-15-2018-with-not-my-job-guest-william-shatner?showDate=2018-12-15
from it, this:
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/15/676992201/panel-questions
j9c
December 24, 2018, 12:48am
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KathyPartdeux:
Edward I
Surely the Scots were double-plus unfond of that “Hammer of the Scots” whose son (Ed II)
Edward II (25 April 1284 – 21 September 1327), also called Edward of Caernarfon, was King of England from 1307 until he was deposed in January 1327. The fourth son of Edward I, Edward became the heir to the throne following the death of his older brother Alphonso. Beginning in 1300, Edward accompanied his father on campaigns to pacify Scotland, and in 1307 he was knighted in a grand ceremony at Westminster Abbey. Edward succeeded to the throne later that year, following his father's death. In...
ends up in the Battle of Bannockburn [in Scotland, yes]. Spoiler alert: Robert the Bruce kicks English arse.
Edward I had wanted to expand England to prevent a foreign power such as France capturing territories in the British Isles. But he needed Scotland's allegiance, which led to his campaign to capture Scotland. The Wars of Scottish Independence between England and Scotland began in 1296. Initially, the English were successful under the command of Edward I: they won victories at the Battle of Dunbar (1296) and at the Capture of Berwick (1296). The removal of John Balliol from the Scottish thr After t...
Battle of Bannockburn 1314 - Two Men in a Trench
In this story the Scots, persistent, patient, working against against heavy odds, have long interested me. Now that I know of the Stone of Scone in added detail, the history just gets more interesting all the time.
The Stone of Scone was clearly taken [back] on King George’s watch…
George VI (Albert Frederick Arthur George; 14 December 1895 – 6 February 1952) was King of the United Kingdom and the Dominions of the British Commonwealth from 11 December 1936 until his death on 6 February 1952. He was also the last Emperor of India from 1936 until the British Raj was dissolved in August 1947, and the first head of the Commonwealth following the London Declaration of 1949.
The future George VI was born during the reign of his great-grandmother Queen Victoria; he was named ...
… strangely his Wikipedia entry lacks this historic detail. Hmpf! (Is there where I finally cave in and start an account on Wikipedia?)
Oh dear oh dear that the stone (after going back and forth for a bit) was only actually “returned” to Scotland for real in 1996.
On 3 July 1996, in response to a growing discussion around Scottish cultural history, the British Government announced that the stone would return to Scotland, 700 years after it had been taken. On 15 November 1996, after a handover ceremony at the border between representatives of the Home Office and of the Scottish Office, the stone was transported to Edinburgh Castle. An official handover ceremony occurred in the Castle on 30 November 1996, St Andrew's Day, to mark the arrival of the s
ETA: trouble getting the Youtube link formatted properly
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