Easily in the top 10 concerts I’ve ever seen - Einsturzende Neubauten on their Strategies Against Architecture II tour. Blixa came out and sang Ein Stuhl in der Holle with F.M. Einheit slamming a long, metal pole on the ground as the only music. Everyone just stood there, rapt, and then the full band broke into Headcleaner and the entire theater turned into a mosh pit. So good…
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I like it when dark leviathans whisper to me in the dark.
I am so jealous! I have never managed to be in the right place and time to see them live.
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It’s fascinating to see them, and see what they are actually playing to make the music. I’ve always been amazed at how Ein Neu can make something like standing on a stool and pouring sand down a kid’s plastic slide sound like a regular musical instrument.
I sort of want to play NNNAAMMM on speakers on my electric car all of the time. It can be my “here I come” noise if they make electric cars start to make more sound to warn people of their presence.
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On the first Pig Face tour one the of the songs was performed on a home made device. A 2x4 was held like an upright bass with metal strings. Pickups sent the sounds from the strings to a box mounted at the top that was about the size of a toaster. The box was a combination mixer, sampler, and sound manipulator. The whole thing was very portable. The performer’s solo act was a doing things to the strings and then sampling, mangling and looping it all live. There are plenty of acts now that do the same with a guitar sample pedals. But at the time, seeing this one person weave such beautiful noise was mind blowing.
ETA: Somewhere I have a video on VHS of EN going out into the city with a portable sampler. They sample a jack hammer. Then back in the studio it shows them slowing the sample down until the individual pop sounds approximate a beat and then build a song on top of it. I love seeing how sounds are made.
I’m pretty sure it is scientifically proven that playing your favorite song in the car increases it’s awesomeness.
I must confess that in the mid 90’s after a few albums that I bought and only listened to a few times I stopped actively traking new EN work. That song you linked is fucking great. I need to go do some catching up.
The initial vocal sampling reminds me of the following song. The entire album is strictly made with just his vocal samples.
Wait all this about industrial and no Savage Aural Hotbed yet?
y’all are slacking.
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Never heard of them. Looks like a great live show. I like how the double bass drums keep impacting the lens.
I love the effect of multiple drummers. Surprised it isn’t more common.
This is more jazzy but love their interplay.
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They use a lot of improvised instruments, like belt sanders on oil drums…
Also they are total math geeks.
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Those are both on my checklist of awesome. I will do a YouTube deep dive of thier work. Thank you.
ETA: Watching another live show of theirs. I have a feeling the sound board engineer cried the entire night watching the the levels spike.
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And then there’s Pailhead, with Al Jourgensen of Ministry and Ian McKaye of Fugazi and Minor Threat.
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What’s the consensus here? Could The Jesus Lizard be considered an offshoot or tangent of Industrial?
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Okey do, done pretending to know what I’m doing, here are some videos. I’m restricting myself to the past 13 months or so because otherwise this becomes unmanageable and I can only post At the Gates so many times.
I’m a big fan of industrial music that makes their own instruments, a la
But I’d go so far as to say that even these below who don’t make their own instruments are on some next-level industrial gasses:
And then on the punk side
BTW the Validators song reminds me of Mercy Seat in a good way. Bubblegum bass lines are such as great addition to most songs that are sadly lacking in recent music.
Bonus Kahn & Neek mix. They’re definitely bass music weirdos primarily, but I love that they bring their metalhead roots into it so often:
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I love both Chumbawamba and Negativland and enjoyed their collaboration.
And I fucking love this thread. The industrial music spectrum shepherded me through much of my formative years.
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Why not? I’d say adjacent in that more punk-industrial vein of Rapeman, Big Black, Shellac, and other Albiniverse projects.
I’ve seen the Jesus Lizard live a couple of times - once when they headlined at the Great American Music Hall and another when they opened for Ministry and they were fucking great. Obviously the smaller show they headlined was far better - after several stage dives, David Yow had all his clothes ripped off and was literally naked on stage. Someone tossed their pants on stage for him and another their t-shirt and he spent the rest of the show wearing them.
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This band had left Austin (for NJ I think) right around the time I arrived there, but they came back for a show around the time this was made.
I liked Trouser Press’s description of them: “like a jollier, funkier Einsturzende Neubauten loose in Pee-wee’s Playhouse”
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Oh… Dear me. You are so right =x.
Re: Pop/punk bleedover, I find myself not, errr, exactly liking but not DISliking “Clown Core”:
Which is odd. My pseudonym and Clown Core’s name aside, I pretty much despise clowns.
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I saw TJL during their first iteration in a little venue near the University of Florida called the Covered Dish.
Somehow, the guy that ran the place had a nose for who was going to be big on the scene, and managed to book them for his venue that made galley kitchens in student housing look spacious.
When Yow surfed the crowd, he didn’t really get to travel far due to lack of space, so putting him back up on stage looked like an exercise in helping a drunk up into a standing position.
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See that’s the thing; many of these bands were experimental. They didn’t stick to one style. Some of what they did was was influential and later became pop-standard. For Cabs, consider : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpSiVimLExc. This is experimental, but is not yet pop-standard.
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Had a lot to do with the producer.
Oh, and speaking of Ministry, and Trent.
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Here are the albums that I think hold up, from the late 80’s to the early 00’s:
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah – Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
The Hold Steady – Separation Sunday
Violent Femmes – Violent Femmes
Sebadoh – III
Modest Mouse – The Lonesome Crowded West
Tier 2
Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On
Belle And Sebastian – If You’re Feeling Sinister
Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation
Slint – Spiderland
Yo La Tengo – I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One
Tier 1
Dinosaur Jr – You’re Living All Over Me
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
Neutral Milk Hotel – In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Guided By Voices – Bee Thousand
Pavement – Slanted And Enchanted
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The early Funky Alternatives comps are great for some pop tinged industrial-electro from a time when the lines were less clearly defined.
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