Possibly the sickest burn on NIN I’ve ever seen.
Kudos.
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Or maybe people can just enjoy whatever music they enjoy and not give a shit about some sort of purity tests for musical tastes? I thought that was over by the time high school ended?
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blitzkrieg bop in Kroger last week was disturbing
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In a similar vein, I still can’t believe that Beyonce’s “All The Single Ladies”, with its massive synthy weirdness, was as massive a hit as it was. Interesting times…
As I tell my students, times comes for all our musical tastes, if it’s not the Ramones in Kroger, it’s christian death in movie soundtracks…
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New Laibach, covering John Cage…
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Of course! Metal/punk/industrial/bass music sub-genre no-true-scotsman competition just leads to the conclusion that everyone’s taste in music sucks just as much as mine does!
I just think it’s silly to focus on Black Flag and The Clash or NIN and Throbbing Gristle without giving any due credit to Crass and friends who actually made the scene real.
So you’re using the whole “No True Rivethead” fallacy?
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I see it as kind of an offshoot of “holier than thou” mentality. Or the much hated “hipsterism”. To which I say “whatever.”
I like a wide gamut of stuff. Find what makes you happy.
From this thread alone, thanks to people sharing what they like, I’ve easily discovered six or seven more bands that I’m going to look into.
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I remember a track on that album – “Abstieg & Zerfall”? – that lifted a riff (I guess one would call it) from Can’s “Unfinished” (from Landed).
(At least, that’s how I heard it. Also the back cover of Kollaps was a tribute to (or parody of?) Ummagumma.)
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Black Flag very much made their scene in SoCal. They didn’t emerge fully formed from Rollin’s tats… They were part of the scene in LA from about 78 onward and were one of the two bands that created the second wave of punk rock. I don’t think there is a single punk band, no matter how small or obscure that would deny their influence. And TG had been doing challenging art installations from the very late 60s, and at one point were called the wrecker’s of civilization by an MP… Chris Carter was making his own gear and they basically coined the term industrial music. And of course Sleazy went on to be half of one of the queerest bands from the esoteric scene, Coil.
If you want to talk about Crass, that’s great - I’m sure lots of folks here love them! Let us know why you think they matter and post some songs for folks who aren’t familiar with them. But there really is no need to trash other people’s tastes in music just because you think it’s a bit too mainstream. Not all of us grew up in a city with ready access to underground music.
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…does he have a tambourine shoved down his pants? he’s looking pretty hot there, gotta say…
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Now I’m all sad, remembering how Camper Van Beethhoven broke up just before they were due to come to Australia
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Well, that sucks!
I’ve always said that if I get access to a time machine, pretty much the only thing I’m going to use it for is to go back in time and see bands I missed or legendary shows…
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Right on. I am a big Crass fan.
I am also a Chumbawamba fan. I’m guessing you know that they were an anarchist punk band long before their single solitary hit. I saw them the very first time they played in the U.S.
Our gov’t wouldn’t give the Chumbas work visas, so they borrowed instruments in every town they played. The gigs were great.
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Oh, I bet! Sounds like fun. Wait till I get my time machine, I’m going to see that…
Now fucking Tubthumping is stick in my head… but the TMBGs version, which is always amazing!
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As a teen in the mid 80’s I hated pop because I hated the people that listened to pop music. Part of my growth as a person was to let go of those petty us versus them attitudes. Along the same lines, I stopped worrying about genres. If a song labeled as pop connects with me in someway, I don’t have a problem with that anymore. As for pop being made for the LCD, some absolutely is but sometimes a simple song structure is just what a song needs.
I bought a Fear Factory album that was remixed with an industrial ear. In the late 70’s early 80’s I was all about the metal and then went alternative mid 80’s and stopped listening to metal. This Fear Factory album was a guilty pleasure on my long weekly commutes.
I agree that EN is the only proper industrial band mentioned in this thread (and previous threads here) but also accept that the word Industrial grew to be more encompassing.
I don’t recognize the other bands you listed.
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My day is made. Thank you kindly @anon61221983
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