I can’t remember the story that well (I don’t think any of what I’m suggesting happened), but it would make some sense that the soviet Waynes were idealists who were in the party inner circle, at least until Stalin’s purges.
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The trade paperback is sitting on a bookshelf at home. I am sure you are right on that.
Well, in other versions, it’s Batman who’s worried of Supe’s power’s side effects, instead of Lex Luthor. A paranoid view, but Batman tends to be portrayed as Properly Paranoid, most of the time.
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That Batman is one of my favorite Batmen. Batman’s greatest superpower is being crafty, not being rich. The rich makes the crafty part infinitely more successful (if MacGyver could call down a stealth aircraft with his watch instead of building an ultralight out of bamboo he’d solve problems a lot faster). But Red Son Batman is given a clear political motivation that refocuses his struggle away from the dark, gritty and nonsensical aspects of the character. Bruce Wayne could fix Gotham in a few years just by using his money more practically. A poor, solo, Soviet dissident is basically left without that sort of option. He would do as Red Son Batman does. Relegate himself to low level rabble rousing and splashy propaganda wins. You don’t even see or hear much about him in the first leg of the book, he’s a problem you hear about. A rumor people mumble about when noones looking. Largely beaten back already. That Batman has his biggest success once he’s backed by American money. And in the end he still fails and dies. Beyond that he’s unrepentantly silly. The character smiles and makes jokes. He wears a ridiculous hat. And is clearly having fun. And not the “ERRRGGGGHHHH I get such a boner from hurting people!” sort of fun that’s been sadly typical of Batman stories since the 90’s. Hatman is fun. And I think he makes a fair bit more sense than actual Batman. Spending your vast fortune to beat up poor people and the mentally ill is a damn site less sensible than building critical infrastructure, supporting the social safety net, and supporting progressive political causes with your vast cash. This is why I like Green Arrow much better than Batman. Batman’s a myopic dick. Oliver Queen builds rehab centers and makes chili.
If memory serves they were dissidents involved in publishing Samizdat, caught and purged or sent to die in the Gulag.
Lately yeah. That was especially a thing through the 00’s, where “Batman is a paranoid dick!” was basically the incitement for a whole series of cross overs and reboots that spawned the current DC line. I am not a fan of this Batman generally speaking. More and more I prefer the O’neil and Adams style Batman. The one with a life, friends, a sense of humor, and lots of Kung-Fu. The one that’s actually a detective.
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I love the hat!
In the notes at the end of the trade paperback, it was justified by the fact that Russia is really cold.
I even like the TV version of Green Arrow. Every time he tries to go all dark and mopey (Steven Amell always looks more “sad puppy” than “serious badass”), his team calls him out on it as self-important BS.
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I don’t much like Arrow. It bears little resemblance to the character of the books, at least by the time I gave up on the show some time in Season 3. Oliver Queen seldom mopes. Oliver Queen is very concerned about social justice. Oliver Queen makes fucking Chili. Comics wise, and at its best, Green Arrow is the opposite of self serious.
More over most of the story lines, villains and what have on the show are borrowed from Batman or Batman associated properties. As is the general tone, visual styling and approach. Excepting the points where they decide every bow using character in the DC universe needs to show up and fight Green Arrow. In a weird way its bringing the character back to its roots. In that the original version of Green Arrow was a cheaper alternative to Batman.
Season 3 was really, really bad. It got better from there. Although Oliver Queen seldom mopes, it is a requirement of characters on CW shows that they have to work around. 
Plus I can’t fault a show too much which had at one point Suzanna Thompson, Manu Bennett and John Barrowman. Heavyweights of scenery chewing!
I think the most representative onscreen version then would be the Justice League Unlimited one in the few appearances he had. A guy who is there to shake things up for the sheer joy of it.
I think that’s what confuses me most about these series. They’re effectively teen dramas, made on the cheap, plus superheroes. And yet I see all over the place, people complaining that they aren’t being used as the basis for the movies. Or arguing that they should be. They are cheap TV shows, with moderate ratings, narrowly target at pre-teens and teens. Why in the hell would any company throw hundreds of millions at that on the assumption it would be successful with a broader audience.
Bennett and Barrowman were indeed the only things that kept me watching as long as I did. Season 3 was particularly bad, but seasons 1 and 2 weren’t exactly good either. Those two seemed to be having a hell of a lot of fun, and treating the material the way it deserved to be treated (as fucking ridiculous). And noone else seemed to be doing that. I’ve heard Flash doubles down on that element. But I was so not entertained by Arrow, and I’m so down on DC these days I intend to continue avoiding it.
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Wow, this is quite the derailment. Can we start talking about comic books in all the Trump threads? It might make their frequency diminish a tad. (I’m being not at all sarcastic, I’m sick of the S.F. Vulgarian getting so much free press.)
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How about derailments with either comic books or hedgehogs? I’d be on board 100%.
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Hey, that’s no way to talk about @brainspore
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And confuse the hit and run squares and pinks drawn to trump threads.
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It helps that posters found a world dominating supervillain more appealing than the real life angry oompa loompa.
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If that’s not a veiled threat, I don’t know what is. Kudos for the excellent diplomacy!
And let’s hope they don’t take the rest of us with them.
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It’s not worth it.
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You hater!!! Why does thinking always have to be critical? Why do you want to criticize thinking so much? Are you actually AGAINST thinking?
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I feel like I’m watching a fascinating horror film where everyone in the world could potentially be nuked by an insane menace but it’s actually real. So what I mean is I’m quite interested in the plot.
This urban dictionary entry is getting downvoted at record speed every day which means it’s pissing off people in “the campaign”, but the upvotes are still rolling in and I’ll do my best to never let this expression die.
trumpster fire
When a rabid racist rant is fueled by a shitstorm of word salad.
“That speech smells like Trumpster Fire!”
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