Iowa caucus-goer learns her candidate is gay

BREAKING: Trump Voter Participates In Iowa Democratic Primary, Votes For Trump In November

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And utilizes a process that enfranchises the largest possible sample of that state, which the Iowa caucus does not.

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:grin: :laughing: :rofl: :joy: :upside_down_face:

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She’s glanced at it. People never actually read the manuals.

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I don’t know that any region should have this kind of pull, and it’s hard to pick a place that’d be completely representative of the country. Is there an advantage that people see to having some states have consistent priority? Or is it just that if we tried to change it, it’d piss off Iowa and New Hampshire, and we can’t do that or else the candidate who suggests it would lose the support of all important Iowa and New Hampshire? If sequential state conventions are ideal, why not just choose the order randomly?

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The problem with Pete Buttigieg is not that he’s gay, but he’s terrible on policy, has too many billionaire backing him, establishment loves him and he has a terrible track record as a mayor (https://theintercept.com/2019/09/20/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-police/).

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No one state is a perfect representation of the country, but Illinois (for example) would be a helluva lot more representative than Iowa by almost any metric you could name.

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Indeed. That’s another insane thing about a person being worried that Buttigieg is going to flaunt their sexuality. If you voted for Mayor Pete without knowing Pete was gay then it’s pretty damn clear that they are not flaunting their sexuality.

The democrats screwed this up. What, they didn’t know the media was going to want headlines before midnight? They didn’t know that if they didn’t provide a clear message then it would be the confusion that was reported on? Knowing how to craft messages for the media hopefully the job of someone in their employ. If they weren’t going to have the results until today they should have been clear that there would be no results until today, and then the story would be building more hype for the results instead of calling it a confusing mess.

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Ahem!, Matthew 5:17

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Maybe we should keep the “progressive” stuff under wraps, and the candidate the informed and sensibly educated people want will be voted in accidentally. :woman_shrugging:

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Iowa has a law that they go first, and fixing that would require either the feds to override Iowa law, or Iowans to decide to destroy the only thing anybody cares about in their state. Neither seems likely at this point.

Frankly, I think having who goes first rotate by order of admission to the union might be… well, amusing if not actually effective. First year, Delaware goes first, second year Pennsylvania, etc. The cultural whiplash from a campaign going Georgia -> Connecticut and then Vermont -> Kentucky would be enough to shake people’s fillings loose.

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But a higher percentage of Iowa is some combination of Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander. And ten times as many Marshallese live in Iowa than in Illinois.
https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=CF
I like the methodology for finding the most average state, but even so, why reward any one state, even the very average one? Same questioning as why we still let small population states have more voting power than large population states due to the electoral college, why is that still a thing?

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It’d be a good geography lesson. People could learn where Kansas City is. Or even Puerto Rico.

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It has been all over the news that Pete B. is gay and has a husband.
This woman’s reaction after she shockingly (gasp! horrors!) discovers he’s gay - rejecting him as her candidate that she liked only because he is gay - is a hallmark of fundamentalist-evangelical Christianity’s influence on the uneducated, uninformed, reactionary voter.

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That Perfect State Index seeks to grab a state whose demographics most closely represent the country as a whole. The country as a whole does not have a particularly large population of native hawai’ians or marshallese.

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It forces them to have a ‘ground game’ for only one very specific minority group of voters.

It forces them to concentrate on that minority instead of the vast majority of voters who also produce the vast majority of GDP for the country.

How is this arcane setup a better focus for political candidates in the 21st century?

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How is that possible? Technically as far as the government is concerned (with a couple exceptions) parties don’t exist. Iowa has a law that says when these two random private clubs have to hold an event in Iowa before they do so anywhere else? What’s the punishment for breaking this law? What happens if Nebraska passes a similar law?

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that’s sad - I feel for that Pete volunteer trying to explain why its ok that their candidate is gay to somebody who’s first reflex is to cite the bible.

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Oh, hey, let’s read the very next verse, shall we?

Giving to the Needy

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Prayer

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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Oh! Well. It’s a good thing I’m an atheist, then.