Lung, oatmeal, blood, and fat boiled up in a steer’s asshole.
The only reason someone eats that is some other person stole the rest of the sheep.
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I’d say in this one instance, on the very narrow issue of cross-contamination, that the Halal standards led to a more hygienic result. The national authority was testing food because earlier general producers had been caught fraudulently selling horsemeat. Because they were then later testing for Halal-levels of cross contamination, they found more bad actors, which is better news for food safety, even if provoked by religious ritual observance.
That doesn’t mean Halal standards can’t be criticized in other situations for animal welfare and other reasons, but in this case, they weren’t the cause of bad practices, they were a higher standard on one practice that was noticeably not being followed by general producers.
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Mod note: For avoidance of doubt, if you are here to argue that halal meat is going to lead to sharia law, the kosher meat-eating members of our community would like to have a word with you.
Not to mention, this is not the place to broaden the scope of the discussion to “religion is bad”, be it your wish to target specific religions or not. If you really want to go down that rabbit hole, open a new topic, please.
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You do know, of course, that they put the same mind control chemicals in shawarma as they do in chemtrails. Study it out!
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Are you referring to the the CoR? An icon found on certain packaged food identifying as Kosher by the Council of Rabbi’s?
I’m sorry if anything I wrote suggested that they were. For any number of reasons I am not in agreement with the spread of blanket regulations against traditional Muslim and Jewish food practice.
As with almost all religious practice, it can be really hard to distinguish genuine concern from racism. This thread is about food, but the last few years have seen several examples of this, such as dress codes in France and curricular intervention in English schools. (Of course, the example in @doctorow’s original post is not one of the hard ones; it is obvious and overt racism.)
No, in this case I was referring to the Norwegian Islamic Council (NIC).
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Who, again, just certify that religious rituals were followed to Islamic custom.
They weren’t the ones responsible for overall food safety (since Norway, to the best of my knowledge, handles that at a national level) nor were they responsible for everyday producers fraudulently labelling stuff as Halal when it was 30% pork.
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There is an entire book devoted to the concept that The British Empire was created to search for food which didn’t suck as badly as the stuff at home.
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that can pretty that thing up but it’s still a flat roofed pub 
This thread is about racism and Islamophobia.
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Well then, about attacks on food practice as an instrument of racism. I can’t tell which substantive part of my post you disagree with.
I made a statement about the one point, but don’t assume I agree or disagree with the rest. There’s a great deal of white supremacist folly masquerading as concern in this thread, and I wish to remain free of the appearance of supporting it.
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Well, it wasn’t a point, just a clause to introduce other places where apparently-secular concerns are used to support racist activity. As a secular Jew I don’t keep Kosher myself, but absolutely believe (as I’d hoped was clear from my posts) that criticisms of both Kosher and Halal practice are often avatars for Islamophobia and antisemitism.
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It would be about food, if the only store in your neighborhood was a halal grocery, and because of that, you couldn’t actually buy “haram” goods-- beer being the most obvious one.
But… very few of us live in such a situation. The halal grocery in my neck of the woods is within a couple blocks of two Indian stores, so I can pick and choose what politics to have with my spices. And I have to walk past two American grocery stores to get there.
It’s not as if it’s a taxicab monopoly:
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An american, raised in Switzerland, pretending to be Scottish, explaining haggis to a Scotsman who is (barely) pretending to be Spanish. More of this please.
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This person does not represent my country nor the majority attitude in my country, Ireland has certainly seen a rise in a Islamophobia in recent years (as has a lot of Europe) but for the most part the country is socially progressive and welcoming to most if not all people. People like this are outliers.
I think the retort here about the Irish pubs is good and cutting, it does its job to knock this particular idiots cognitive dissonance down a peg however do not confuse international Irish pubs with our identity.
I hate to say it Cory as I practically worship you but I really resent the lazy lucky charms dig, we are not cartoon characters, we are one of the oldest cultures in the world and in spite of a lot of attempts to quell/homogenize us we are still here. What it means to be Irish might change as our nationality comes to represent more diversity in both creed, ethnicity and ideology, but it will be the outcome of a long lineage of such changes.
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Ah, but can you get pissed out of your mind in a halal grocery? Didn’t think so.
Captain Obvious says:
That’s intentional, because it’s challenging the ridiculous idea that a Halal grocery is somehow “objectionable” just because it’s Muslim.
The whole point of this article is one bigot’s anti-Muslim prejudice and why it’s an idiotic argument.
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Apparently, this needs repeating:
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