I think this is actual footage of every foreign affairs department of every government in the world:
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“Trump is a dog and the son of a dog,” Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said,
While I can generally agree with the sentiment, this does seem unduly harsh to dogs.
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Israel abdicated its moral authority/high ground years ago; it should surprise no one that they want a solution that squeezes the Palestinians into ever shrinking cattle pens with almost no autonomy whatsoever.
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Israel never had one. The state was declared unilateraly by a group of immigrants who proceeded to get rid of most of the native population.
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I’m trying to think of another one sided peace agreement that I’m sure in no way led to further resentment and the rise of fascism… Oh yeah
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Yet, nearly everyone seem to be getting on board (many of the Arab States, the EU, said it’s a “good starting point”).
Would you include the Palestinians in negotiations? Then yes.
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Even putting aside the issue of personal-level antisemitism – “I don’t want those icky people near me” – the Evangelicals have a truly disturbing reason for wanting Jews to live in Israel. It’s an item on the checklist for bringing about the End Times. Jews aren’t people deserving of a homeland; they’re a contractual obligation that must be met before all the true believers (read: Evangelicals) can finally ascend into heaven.
Jews, presumably, don’t get to come along. They didn’t sign on to the revised contract, after all. I’ve never broached that particular point with the Evangelicals, though, so I may be missing some technicality.
Can you please clarify why that particular detail is relevant to my point? I presume you’re referring to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Given that we’re talking about Israel as a state-level political entity, and given that the declaration was deliberately vague on the whole idea of the formation of a state, I am not seeing the connection you’re drawing.
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You gotta start somewhere. Sure it’ll be rejected, then everyone knows where they stand and it will all go from there. Look what happened with NK, one moment we were going to be nuked, next thing Trump and Kim are talking and smiling together. Don’t pre-judge, there must be heaps going on behind the scenes we’ll never know about. A lot is released just to please the mob while the adults are talking.
And who would those adults be? Certainly not Trump or Nethanyahu. Trump’s talks with North Korea has led to exactly nothing so far.
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Berns, were you nuked as promised by NK? Maybe an adult got into the convo to stop it.
Imho the western guilt-trip in the middle east after WWII is one of the root causes of all trouble in the middle east, and by extension the tensions between muslims and non-muslims worldwide. That and oil, of course.
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Maybe they did, but I doubt it was The Donald.
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I also wasn’t nuked by North Korea before Trump took power. Trump temporarily made things more dangerous but it luckily didn’t amount to anything.
Similarly, there was no agreement between Israelis and Palestinians before Trump took office, we are currently seeing things momentarily get worse, and then we’ll hopefully go back to how it’s always been.
Best case scenario is Trump touches a thing and it only becomes ill but doesn’t die.
Like people can argue that hot snow falls up. When I see:
“they’re going to screw up another opportunity, like they’ve screwed up every other opportunity that they’ve ever had in their existence.”
I am reminded of racist language used against Canadian Indigenous people. They’ve had so many opportunities, you see, but they never take them. This is the language we use to deny the rights of indigenous people (not capital-i indigenous in this case).
Making plans for the future of a racialized group of people without consulting that group of people is racism, not matter what overtones or undertones it has, no matter what is in the heart of the people making the plans. It’s some weird, backward-ass logic to think otherwise. It’s the equivalent of denying a race the right to vote.
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Which differs from now…how, exactly? The Palestinians haven’t gotten anything approaching a fair deal over the last 40 years with us trying to broker it, with much better and smarter people than Kushner devoting significant portions of their lives making good faith efforts.
It simply isn’t in our power to broker anything, especially when most of the rest of the regional powers would do anything in their power to make it fall apart. Nobody needs Israel to remain a bad guy upon which to focus anger more than SA or Iran et al. Our continued involvement in the morass of misery only throws good effort after bad.
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Is he … is he negging the Palastinians? Does he think they’re going to want his approval now?
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Holy shit, I think you might be right.
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Sure, if some place could’ve been found for it that didn’t already have people living there who would object to having their land stolen (gosh durn those pesky Palestinians!).
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<a href=The architects behind the US plan for Middle East peace | Conflict News | Al Jazeera> The architects behind the US plan for Middle East peace: Jared Kushner, David Friedman, Jason Greenblatt
There are at least three things that Jared Kushner, David Friedman and Jason Greenblatt all have in common. One is that they are all Orthodox Jews, and another is that prior to their appointment as officials in the Trump administration, all three men had no prior political or diplomatic experience.The third is that this triad has connections to Israel, or more specifically, to the illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank.
Both Friedman and Kushner, through a family charity, have for years donated to the hardline Bet Il settlement, located on land belonging to the Ramallah area. Greenblatt studied at a yeshiva during the 1980s at a settlement bloc near Jerusalem, where he also guarded it with an M-16 assault rifle
Thank heavens President Trump assembled a neutral and disinterested team to work on the plan.
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They supposedly convert to Christianity. It doesn’t take much knowledge of history to know what that involves and what happens to those who don’t convert, whether it is publicly or in secret.
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Citation please.
Two cons doing more cons, nothing more.
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