Joe Biden is the Hillary Clinton of 2020 – and it won't end well this time either

[KathyPartdeux]

Insisting on a white male candidate will lose my vote - and the votes of many in the majority of the Dem party. Which white men aren’t. So if you want to keep democrats from coming to the polls - keep making that what the election is about.

Go try a beat Trump with Republican voters.

[KathyPartdeux]

@Espry0n

I thought of somebody

Good for you. That really helped your argument.

[Nobby_Stiles]

@Espry0n

He’s dropping like a lead balloon in the polls, here’s hoping.

I suspect that has something to do with the videos of him fondling kids.

I mean kissing babies is a traditional campaigning activity, but maybe you can take it too far?

[Nobby_Stiles]

@LurksNoMore

As an aside, there’s no Clinton dynasty and the people who kept talking about it were dumb.

Give it time.

[KathyPartdeux]

@Nobby_Stiles

As an aside, there’s no Clinton dynasty and the people who kept talking about it were dumb.

Give it time

Given that’s they have one kid who’s 40? now and never run for any office; I’ll keep my eye on the Cheney’s & Bushes right now.

[Nobby_Stiles]

@KathyPartdeux

Given that’s they have one kid who’s 40? now and never run for any office; I’ll keep my eye on the Cheney’s & Bushes right now.

I think the Bushies already qualify as a dynasty. I am watching both the Cheney’s s and the McCains.

[blondie]

@Gutierrez

Failure in a trade war with China is most likely the best target for that.

I find myself rooting for China to ban exports of rare earth minerals to the U.S… That would throw a spanner into the trade war works, and likely force Trump to cave.

That wouldn’t play well for him and, maybe, flip a few votes the Democrats way.

[anon61221983]

@suavefucker

We’re here debating the finer points of sexism in politics. Meanwhile…

Well, yes… one party is LITERALLY trying to take away women’s basic rights, so maybe we SHOULD talk about sexism right now. Just like we SHOULD talk about racism, homophobia, sexism, islamophobia, anti-semitism, etc… all the things that are driving ONE party and are playing around the edges of the other SHOULD be one of the topics of conversation.

[codinghorror]

Mainly I want Trump to lose, so I’m a fan of anything that makes that happen.

If Democrats decide “hey, I can’t vote for anyone except my preferred candidate” they’re gonna lose every single time to Republican tribalism. As Trump has proven, you can nominate one of the historically worst candidates for president of all time … and they’ll still effortlessly close ranks behind that candidate and vote party line without a second thought.

Tribalism works. Winning is winning. As Clay Shirky said, we have to vote like a minority, because we are one.

@Clay Shirky

So what’s a white liberal to do? First, realize we are a minority, and we have to campaign like one. Donate to the campaign, for starters. Yes, yes, Clinton’s not as liberal as we’d like, but minorities never get the luxury of demanding a perfect candidate. Just give. Talk with pro-Trump relatives, because they won’t listen to people who aren’t white. (Statistically, they won’t know any they care about.) Donate to fight voter suppression. In November, call voters, or better, get to a swing state and knock on doors. Get to poorer communities and drive people to the polls.

[Wanderfound]

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[codinghorror]

It’s still early days for a front runner. I want to see who wins in the democratic primaries.

2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries

This is the largest presidential primary field for any political party in American history, exceeding the field of 17 major candidates that sought the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

[Espry0n]

And Biden hopefully will continue dropping in the polls like a lead balloon.