Justin Trudeau wore brownface at a party in 2001 when he was a private school teacher

Mod note: People who disagree with you aren’t worthy of derision. Debate the position, don’t attack the person.

If you’d prefer to do so anyway, this isn’t the forum for it. As the community guidelines say, be sure to backup your profile before making dodgy comments.

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If someone is standing on your foot, how relevant are you going to find their observation that “It’s not like your foot is being murdered.”?

No one is going to care about any whataboutisms and false equivalencies until they are sure that the foot-stomper is 1. Going to get off your foot. 2. Isn’t likely to do it again, and 3. Had some understandable reason for why you were so clumsy (Even if they had “Perfect Benevolent White Person Intentions”)

If Trudeau works around his embarrassing idiocies, he’ll re-gain people’s current trust, and nobody has to pretend that what he did was “Okay” to facilitate that.

If you don’t think he needs to work to re-gain trust, maybe that’s because you don’t value the opinion of people who are bothered that he didn’t know something obvious to them.

This isn’t even an unusual process. If a Louisiana politician off-handedly said he liked Houston better than New Orleans, people would remember it forever, judge him on his “Louisiana patriotism”, and use it as one of the things that made them feel they knew the real person underneath the persona. People wouldn’t think “A person shouldn’t be judged by their words”, but over time people would judge it, in context of the rest of what they say and do. That’s what will happen here.

The only real difference here is that this is the kind of mistake that’s more concerning to POC than it is to white people, a lot of whom are super quick to say “What’s the big deal”, instead of listening to why people care.

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He hasn’t been vilified ad nauseum. He’s been heavily criticized in the short span of time that has passed since his actions became public, in part because new revelations have surfaced since his first apology.

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So, Discourse is being annoying and not allowing mods to split this topic.

This isn’t a topic about aliens. Feel free to create a new one if you wish. Further replies along those lines will be removed from this topic.

This is a topic about folks choosing to portray real or fictional depictions of a real group of humans, including skin colour. If anyone is genuinely confused as to why that might not be appropriate given what we know about the treatment of dark-skinned humans here on earth, regardless of what the initial depiction was intended to convery at the time it was created, then I strongly recommend re-reading any of our resident historian @anon61221983’s very educational and informative posts on the subject.

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If it’s extremely on-point it can be good, but I have to say 95% of the time it’s just … not.

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Taking offense at someone stupidly wearing a dumb outfit twice (which is, technically, more than once, yes, but hardly a trend over decades) communicates more about some people regarding their Jacobin bloodlust and willingness to punish than a carefully-parsed series of blog entries might have.

Again, I hope that no one with your zeal and unflinching rectitude and appetite for scorn ever finds pictures of you during the dumbest 10 hours of your life on Earth, comrade.

One of these is enough I think. And not this one.