Justin Trudeau wore brownface at a party in 2001 when he was a private school teacher

He (and his speechwriters) came up with an acceptable apology. If the Conservatives want to keep working this particular vein I hope he comes back hard about their own, more recent failings when it comes to racism.

My main concern is that the Conservatives will try to use this to keep black Canadians home on election day by claiming that the Liberals are just as bad as they are on race.

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Side note: Why do people do the argument-via-clipart thing? It’s not cool, it’s not fun, and it kinda shows an unwillingness to actually engage.

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“The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.” -Mahatma Gandhi

just your opinion man

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Really? Centuries = slower?

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No one said that Trudeau is beyond all hope of forgiveness. It’s just stupid to expect instant and total forgiveness at the first sign of contrition, especially when the scope of the wrongdoing isn’t even clear yet.

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I think it will be pretty damn bad for him. Will Scheer win because of it? Probably no. I mean, he won’t get any votes from this – it’s just that people will not have the same enthusiasm for the Liberals and may not vote full stop. Or they might conceivably go Green or NDP… But anyone offended by this is hardly going to go conservative.

We were heading into a minority government and my guess is that we are still headed for a minority government. The question is whose minority.

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It’s really not. It’s a simple false equivalence.

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Bullshit excuse is complete bullshit, IMO.

Example A;

The internet exists; it’s the 21st century.

There’s now more access to the breadth of nearly all documented human knowledge and other people’s lived experiences than ever before, right at our very fingertips.

“I didn’t know any better” is an excuse that no longer holds water.

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He just spent about a half hour mea culpa-ing all over CNN (3:00pm Eastern) while in Winnipeg. It was sad and embarrassing to watch, so I didn’t. The speech was from the textbook on what to say.

That would only be valid if the most important thing is the intention of the person wearing the blackface, rather than it’s impact on others.

Your point is much like a driver complaining that they shouldn’t be jailed for running over a pedestrian because they didn’t mean to. They were just drunk!

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Interesting assumption.

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I’m the real racist, for listening to what POC have told me and believing them… Clearly.

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And I guess the actual non-White folks expressing our opinions in this topic “don’t count” either!

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Greece never had chattel slavery? Who wrote the history books you’re reading?

As for Bulgaria, I’m not sure it gets a pass for the Ottoman activities since the attitudes seem to have stuck around after the liberation:

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Clearly too close to the issue to think about it rationally and logically, as that’s literally the only way to approach our social world! Emotion is for commies! /s

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“It’s an universal law-- intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility.” Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

You’re putting words in my mouth, again. I never said that. I don’t know what he “expects” frankly. And neither do you. I think forgiveness is in short supply these days. I think vilifying someone with a track record of supporting diversity ad nauseum is, well nauseating.

Malice isn’t the only thing that makes an act racist. But just as there’s a difference between murder and manslaughter to any rational person, there is also a clear and defineable difference between malicious racism maintained and carried out over decades deliberately designed to hurt people, and non-malicious accidental racist actions not designed to hurt.

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