That’s not the same as DARVO. A Kafka trap doesn’t include blaming the accuser, downplaying the alleged crime, mischaracterizing witness statements, and railing against some vast conspiracy that is out to get the accused.
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Actually, I would argue that one of the few parts of his testimony that seemed believable was when he said that the devil’s triangle was a quarters variant with three shotglasses. Of course as often as he said “I like beer” to imply that he only drank beer, I’ve never seen people fill a shotglass with beer to play quarters with. But of course you had to be 21 to buy or drink liquor in Maryland, so there was never a time when the seniors that he went to high school with were legal to buy liquor in state.
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One has to wonder if Kavanaugh and Judge are celebrating at the shore today.
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Republicans are also acutely aware that Kavanaugh was already almost historically unpopular at the time he was nominated, and that his popularity has only dropped as the public sees more of him.
The longer this takes, the worse he, and they, look.
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Only wholesome things. Like the water of life.
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That would be a GOPTrap, or perhaps around here an ArchTrap.
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They almost pushed him over the edge.
When he started trying to imperiously question his questioners, it was marvelous to behold. (But, with only 5 minutes to work with, the Democrats just could not bring him to a boil.)
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Mala fide, someone’s doing it right.
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“Der Process” was published in 1925. The term “kafkaesque” has been in use since the 1930s.
https://www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/handle/123456789/5041
But that, I suppose, is off the subject.
We could have a conversation about DARVO, Jennifer Freyd, and “recovered memories”.
“Columbia psychiatry professor Robert Spitzer believes that very few memories recovered in therapy can be genuine. “My impression is that most of [the] therapists are not familiar with the most elementary principle of scientific investigation, which is that you have to be cautious and skeptical,” he says. “You can’t take on face value people’s supposed memories unless there is corroboration.” Dr. Spitzer views eagerness by some therapists to guide patients toward the repressed-memory explanation of their troubles as a disservice to the patients, who may have suffered genuine trauma but will probably never be able to pin it to such memories”
True. That’s not the term you used, though, now is it?
We could, but DARVO is the concept being discussed here, specifically in relation to Kavanaugh’s behaviour.
And … BS. “Recovered memories” aren’t really a factor here, as Ford never suppressed them but revisited them throughout her life (e.g. the laughter of her assailants imprinted on this psychology professor’s hippocampus).
Keep shovelling it. I’m interested to see where this goes.
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Belief doesn’t matter at this stage. It matters after fact finding is complete and they can assess the veracity of those who have testified in context.
They obviously believe that enough credible testimony and evidence exist to warrant a more thorough investigation. Which is a step much more further forward in their believing the allegations of the women who have come forward.
Which shows how effective and believable Dr Ford was.
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It’ll be a cold day in hell before I even think to defend Kavanaugh on anything, but, according to the link in the post from the University of Oregon page:
Caution Applying to Individual Cases: Also the presence of DARVO is not necessarily evidence in support of the accusation of guilt; a truly innocent person may deny an accusation, attack the person making the accusation, or claim the victim role. Future research may be able to determine the probability of a DARVO response as a function of guilt or innocence. The author hypothesized that some sorts of denials and reactions such as DARVO are more likely when the perpetrator is guilty than innocent (Freyd, 1997); however this hypothesis has not yet been tested. Furthermore, even if research indicates that a DARVO reaction is more likely when there is actual guilt, it would be an error to use a DARVO reaction as proof of guilt. Rather, the concept of DARVO is offered as potentially memorable and useful term for anticipating the behavior of perpetrators when held accountable, and for making sense of responses that may otherwise be confusing (particularly when victim and offender get reversed).
DARVO as concept appears to be designed for victims and clinicians, rather than an indicator behavior. Also, as an indicator behavior, it’s easily gamed–so it has limited utility the instant it hits popular usage… which I have a feeling is about to be now.
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That’s a standard and valid disclaimer for applying psychological terms. One, I’d note, that doesn’t require you to resort to BS to call it into question or distract from its relevance.
I think it’s fair to say that the behaviour is reminiscent of DARVO tactics without applying a definitive clinical conclusion.
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The way Colbert signs off his intro of the petulant frat boy that is kavanaugh is something to see for those who haven’t…
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Hot damn that was good.
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Great job mind reading there.
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