not at all. I mean it’s the GOP catch phrase “Government is bad (please elect us and we’ll show you just how dysfunctional it can be!)”
So watching them flail is kind of fun until you realize that’s kind of their goal.
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I’m just left hoping/wondering (probably pointlessly) that the Dems could put forth a moderate candidate that enough moderate Republicans could support if nothing more than to spite Gaetz and the like. I mean is there literally no Dem McCarthy would support at this point for the position?
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There aren’t any. Anyone who is even close to this would immediately be called a RINO. Then likely face a primary and replacement. See Liz for example.
Knowing that, it’s possible there is some non-crazy that are in competitive districts. Ones where name recognition and incumbency tip the scale just enough. It might be possible for that very specific unicorn of a representative to switch parties. Either to independent and then caucus with the Dems or outright switch. Someone who this represents less risk than being drummed out as a RINO. Since either way, they’re no longer in the GOP.
If you can find 5 of those special unicorns, that could flip the majority caucus. At which point, the majority could elect a new speaker. The Dem messaging that electing a speaker is the majority responsibility could be subtle messaging about this.
Solutions that depend on finding a unicorn are long shots, ones that need 5 of them, practically impossible.
The current problem is the GOP majority isn’t really a majority. It’s two minority groups combined that cannot really work together to accomplish stuff, only to be against stuff.
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Do it anyway. Load that Supermanchild up. Watch him evade prison, become president AND lead his party to snatch cold turds from the mouth of failure. Watch also how every Republican stabs each other in the back for cheap favors. It will be like lighting a dozen catherine wheels in a warehouse full of cocked industrial-sized mousetraps at the ping pong ball factory.
We just saw how the minority party can choose either side to support. I’m sure we can make this a memorable speakership if we try.
-ed’d to add “-ublican”
I think maybe some Democrats would have supported McCarthy, too, if he had not immediately gone and blamed them for the clusterfuck that was the getting the CR passed. Like, literally right after the vote, he blamed them for the vote going to the wire, when he GOT their votes. The problem was and remains the extremist in his own party. So, if he’d been like - “yeah, the Democrats did the right thing here, and we couldn’t have gotten that done with them” - they probably wouldn’t have voted him out. I mean, he was a real arrogant jerk about the whole thing…
They are the minority party, so they can’t. This is literally on the Republicans to deal with, as the majority party gets to pick the speaker. I’d guess that some Dems would support a moderate candidate, but they are apparently going to go with Steve “David Duke without the baggage” Scalise…
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Trump is a special case though, isn’t he? The cult of trump requires its members to periodically demonstrate obeisance, and this is one such opportunity.
There is zero point in the Democrats supporting a craven lickspittle like McCarthy, he has doublecrossed almost every agreement he ever made ‘across the aisle’. Let him go weep in the Rotunda. Fuck that guy.
If the republicans spend the next 3 months infighting it will cause a great amount of disruption and awfulness. May they wear it on their shirts for the next 30 years.
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I fear the fascist scum can now get their govt closure by simply refusing to vote in a new speaker, indefinately.
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So he’s not going to be bringing Ukrainian aid to the table next week?
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yeah, and in addition, i think he could have gotten the original agreement he made with biden passed. there was enough republican support for that already
instead he catered to the far right in order to try to keep his job.
that’s not someone that can be trusted or really even worked with
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I lived in his district once upon a time. I’m confident a sizeable number of his constituents are perfectly happy with this.
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Nor are they performing Stonehenge at the next show.
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I see on a later post here that MTG is actually trying to get him named speaker.
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It’s not enough. He needs to do all of these as minimum to be forgiven. /S
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Where’s the crossed fingers emoji reaction?
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I mean, as usual with the GOP, he was a shitweasel who can’t be trusted to fulfill any promises. There are a couple better, although able to be selected is a tough constraint that would require planning and precommitment from the Democrats.
If we’re now in the situation where begging the opposing party for votes is necessary, they would only need to peel off a few Republicans to get a majority for some Democrat…
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The logic is that McCarthy is already bad enough that they can’t really work with him. After working with the Dems to prevent the shutdown, he immediately turned around and blamed them for it.
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Better than Gym Jordan who is running for it.
The dark horse I see is Elise Stefanik.
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