Originally published at: Kevin Smith shares his views on Batman and Superman on the big screen | Boing Boing
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I like Smith but his opinion isn’t necessarily something i agree with at times, he’s mainly providing entertainment for the people that follow him. He did hype up how awesome Ben Afleck and Snyder’s vision was and to me that has been the absolute worst version of anything DC has done with the character 
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Being from New Jersey, he’s a natural born bullshiter. Evidence abounds.
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I’m afraid supply has long since outpaced demand for that particular service.
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I still enjoy smith, but clearly, I’m in the minority here…
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I haven’t listen to much of his commentary stuff, but I have heard him give a talk and he is a great story teller.
Clerks will always hold a special place in my heart. Mallrats and Dogma were also really good. I generally like his other movies, though they aren’t what I would call high art - mostly juvenile and irreverent humor - but they are fun.
Tusk and Red State were more serious and mature, and I liked them both.
So overall, I am a fan, but not “Apu jumping in front of a gun meme” level.
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The absolute worst version?
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Yes, those movies were infinitely more watchable than the Snyder movies.
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Right on! I’m glad somebody enjoyed Clooney’s Batman more than I did. With Batman V Superman, I feel like Snyder was the problem more than Affleck, and I don’t even like Affleck all that much. I feel like Affleck does his best playing people with dubious morals, like in Clerks and Gone Girl. He was good in The Accountant, too, but is it acting when you are trying to not depict any emotions?
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I don’t love-love the Clooney and Val Kilmer Batman movies but they’re on the spectrum of “It’s so bad it’s good” so they have their time to shine in the right setting. As you said my biggest issue was with Snyder than Afleck, the overall choices made for the movies were just joyless.
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Joyless is the word for sure. Like you said, at least Clooney and O’Donnell were good for a chuckle.
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Kind of surprised that Smith opened this video with a whole bit about Ben Affleck and then neglected to mention that Ben Affleck did actually don the Superman suit for the 2006 film Hollywoodland.
The thing about pairing Batman and Superman is that the characters work best as a study in contrasts. Superman is about bright blue skies and optimism and the embodiment of The American Way,™ Batman is about dealing with the collapse of society by getting into fistfights with muggers in dark alleyways.
The dynamic doesn’t work when they are both dark and broody.
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The comic book the movie largely cribs from (The Dark Knight Returns) Batman, the dynamic mostly works in the comic because the medium is fairly forgiving on style vs substance. It’s basically a power fantasy since the initial set up is an excuse to have Batman beat up Superman and make it seem plausible. As far a movie goes, i suppose there are ways to make it work but i think that’s a very steep hill to climb. It may have worked best as an animated movie rather than live action because of how over the top the premise is.
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