that would have been when my parents took my sister and me to see it at the local drive-in.
8 Likes
You’re ignoring the red MAGA hat on his head and being blatant about it. You know perfectly well what context that puts his “smile” into. And it’s been pointed out to you repeatedly – but you’re choosing to ignore it.
You’re driving trollies us, and being blatant about it.
I’m not interested in anything else you have to say on the BBS.
10 Likes
It’s like there’s a desperation to not only ignore blatant racism, but to try to dominate the conversation with a bunch of misdirection and irrelevant bullshit… just like every single time an incendiary topic about racial inequality comes up.
14 Likes
I would have seen it in 86 most likely…? So yeah… not some relic of the past. Like @Melizmatic, it most likely would have been on the TV.
5 Likes
Sadly, no.
It seems like damn near every day, some obtuse person of privilege readily demonstrates that racism, bigotry, discrimination and shitty, prejudiced ideas rooted in ignorant hatred are ‘alive and well.’
10 Likes
And that they have no intention of helping to dismantle that stuff, too, and in fact wish to preserve it, because they don’t understand how harmful and destructive it is, to ALL of us, not just the people directly effected by those things. They expect the rest of us to just “live with it” because they firmly believe that’s just the way god intended the world to be. I say fuck that noise. WE are our own god, and WE CAN do better.
9 Likes
Real talk.
7 Likes
ze fack? thats disney? I didnt even know its existence till now, which seems no wonder, given the first release in germany as last as 1982 and only VHS(?). is this film the source of the well-known accusations of racism towards disney?
3 Likes
I mean, if our society is built on social constructs (which I generally believe to be the case) then we can build new ones! Ursula K. Le Guin made a similar point about feudalism and capitalism… neither were inevitable, and can be changed.
Slightly off-topic, but it reminds me of this article I just read about a film based on the notion that the AIDS crisis never actually happened, and what would the world might look like if it hadn’t:
It’s a historical counter-factual, true, but it can give us hope that we can build better things, yeah?
8 Likes
The very same.
6 Likes
Among other things, yes. You also have the crows in Dumbo, lots of asian stereotypes in several films, etc.
8 Likes
Just one of many.
There’s a few different top ten lists:
10 Likes
jah, I remember some of those, but this one…seems so extra-blunt! I cant even.
4 Likes
This movie and other instances certainly show the racism of Disney’s early “corporate culture”.
Walt Disney, as a human being, is more often suspected of personally being racist because he went to meetings of the German American Bund in the 30s, at a time when the German American Bund was notoriously pro-Nazi.
Unlike Trump’s father, he was never caught marching with the Klan, of course.
5 Likes
My memory has gotten unreliable (chemo brain persists for years), but I could swear I saw it on TV, not in a movie theater. Perhaps during the Sunday night The Magical World of Disney TV show? I did a quick check through the episodes and couldn’t find it, though. It’s just, I was only in an actual movie theater something like twice in my childhood, so I wouldn’t have seen it that way.
Also, I remember this comic strip (quote from Wikipedia):
As had been done earlier with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs , Disney produced a Sunday comic strip titled Uncle Remus & His Tales of Br’er Rabbit to give the film pre-release publicity. The strip was launched by King Features on October 14, 1945, more than a year before the film was released. Unlike the Snow White comic strip, which only adapted the film, Uncle Remus ran for decades, telling one story after another about the characters, some based on the legends and others new, until it ended on December 31, 1972.
5 Likes
Going back through the Disney catalog with a kids is interesting, and also takes a lot of conversation. Peter Pan and Fantasia caught me and my wife completely off-Guard. I didn’t remember anything but Hook (literally the only good thing in Peter Pan) and I remembered the racist centaur, but Fantasia has Chinese mushrooms and tons of other stereotypes. Just a crazy amount. Those two are probably the absolute most racist movies in the a available catalog which is saying something.
At the same time, Sleeping Beauty is an absolutely amazing film that I had no memory of and I grew fond enough of Beauty and the Beast to be (even more) horrified at the live action remake. The live action remake that manages to both be more bigoted and misogynistic while trying hard to be inclusive (and yet still pissed off the white right because it dared have black people at all).
It’s such a bizarre mess. The best you can say about them is they tried so hard and so wrongly at times (like relying on Iron Eyes Cody to give a Native American oversight to Pocahontas).
5 Likes
Quick fix. That dude was Hollywood crazy unto himself.
7 Likes
No, just one of the most notorious.
It’s not hard to find blatant racism in Disney products, especially the older ones.
3 Likes
and it isn’t as if the warner brothers animation shop did any better. you don’t have to go back too far in time to start hitting some pretty redolent racism. certainly the portrayals of japanese characters in the wartime cartoons was a definite nadir in asian portrayal.
5 Likes
Indeed.
Some of my favorite Tex Avery skits are highly problematic, and Bugs Bunny & Co have done shit like this:
Absolutely; I’ve had a lot of uncomfortable conversations with my kid, thanks in part to the latent bigotry and misogyny present in so much of their work.
9 Likes
