Yeah sure. Thanks for the update.
Don’t forget to Vote in November.
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
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You are correct that we are diverting so I won’t respond any more either except to point out that something not working once does not make it useless always
Isn’t it funny? I just wrote about not trusting a stopped clock if you happen to look at it during the one moment in the day when technically it’s showing the correct time, in another thread.
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Can you provide an example of it working? For instance, did it work for Leonard Peltier and the Pine Ridge Sioux?
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If you believe that, I have a parachute I’d like to sell you. It works just fine on the ground.
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Ah, I thought I smelled something awful. It’s the stench of that ridiculous ammosexual fantasy that a bunch of their peashooters could be of any use whatsoever against the massive force available to law enforcement.
Will someone PLEASE open a window!
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If that’s not what you meant by this, then the burden is on you to clarify. Specifically, when you look at the sentence structure above, the word “it” in the section I bolded is expected, by the reader, to refer to the most recent previous direct object, namely “the 2nd.”
So parsing that paragraph out, the “democratic party” is “irrationally weird” about “the 2nd.” How else are we supposed to interpret that?
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Well played, @not-purely-a-lurker-anymore.
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Could we? Like you, I have similar doubts. But I also can see a possibility. The 2017 women’s march is a good example of what’s possible.
Could we unite and roast his ass? I doubt street protests would do it, even prolonged protests. What if we developed a network of food and medicine distribution, and a huge majority of the population stayed home? Big businesses would have to shut down. Take away the thing they crave most: the money. No money spent. Something strategic and widespread like that could roast their asses. There are probably better ideas. I’m shooting from the hip here/armchairing.
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Great place to stay while not giving money to corporate dickheads!
I guess it’s good though to shift a bit sometimes and give some to local and/or cooperative businesses. 
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I love how this same old ignorance is trotted out completely blind (often willfully) to the thousands of examples peppered throught history where a smaller, vastly worse equipped but more motivated force wins by attrition and asymetric tactics.
I just realized I am spending time and thought on something Michael Moore said.
Tell us again when this has happened in recent US history?
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And how did that actually turn out for the Black Panthers? Strong symbolism, but terrible outcomes. They did the right thing, but when it came down to it America let them down.
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Let’s look back
Shays Rebellion
Whiskey Rebellion
Fries Rebellion
1811 Germán Coast Uprising
Nat Turner’s Slave Uprising
1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation
AntiRent War
Taos Revolt
John Brown at Harper’s Ferry
American Civil War
New York City Draft Riots
Battle of Liberty Place
Election Riot of 1874
Greenwood Insurrection of 1882
Wilmington Insurrection of 1898
Coal Wars
Battle of Athens
Green Corn Rebellion
San Juan Nationalist Revolt
Black Power Movement
Red Power Movement
Attica
Malhuer Wildlife Center
Which ones achieved goals?
Election riot of 1874 - installed white supremicists into office. Kicked out the reconstruction electeds.
Wilmington Insurrection of 1898 Successful removal of local government, keeps white supremacy.
Well - the record is pretty clear - if you want to win an insurrection in the US you need to be a white supremicist group that has support from and membership of the local ruling class and police.
Neither of these “successes” ended tyranny- they reinforced it.
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What about the Battle of Blair Mountain?
OH, and…
More on that…
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Thanks! It looks like they were shut down by the gov without achieving their objectives too.
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Yep. Pretty much. At the end of the day, a government with national guard and police are going to tend to do far better than an unorganized (or even slightly organized) militias or uprisings. I’d argue that the American government was concerned with this from the beginning, in part because of their fear of the events of Haiti coming to American shores. Each and every time enslaved people attempted to spear head an uprising, the response was swift, violent, and wide-reaching. Not quite as so violent as with uprisings among white labor. White labor eventually got some of what it wanted (at least a seat at the table by selling out their more radical elements during the early Cold War), but that didn’t last much past the 70s, honestly. Really the PATCO strike was a major blow to the labor movement across the board, and they’ve been less effective since then.
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Still - reality won’t stop paunchy middle aged dudes from thinking that if they were just motivated by some personal injustice and then trained on the peloton and gun range for a few weeks - they could be Rambo or Batman.
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