Minister accuses Satan of spoiling his $65 million dollar private jet fundraiser

So, no real education to back up his claim to be respected for his educational achievement.

His educational achievement? Sure. He got a real, proper, bachelors, masters and doctorate from an actual university. His knowledge of theology? Shrug. That’s one of those things where even if you actually have a formal education in it, I’m not sure how much I’m going to respect it. Self taught, doctorate degree, it’s all voodoo as far as I’m concerned (aside from the historical perspective of it, in that respect there is some real, genuine learning that can be done. But interpretation of the Bible? Bah)

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The oracle of Wikipedia failed me. that just showed a bachelor’s degree.

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I think that it may depend on jurisdiction. As might be expected, Europe takes this pretty seriously and even has an EU-wide harmonization effort(maybe the dubious deli meat is an American thing; but doesn’t "The Bologna Process sound more horrifying than banal?); but in the US it’s more a matter of convention and respect than strict entitlement (unless you are doing it in the course of committing fraud; but that is true of basically any claim; or practicing medicine, law, etc. without suitable qualifications).

Some people go with the 'If he wants to be called ‘Dr.’, fine." route. Some think only Ph.D’s/MDs/JDs from accredited universities are good enough, some think those, and honorary degrees from the same are OK, some expand the field to some or all under-accredited institutions(not uncommon, particularly for protestants, to have some fairly low-rent seminaries, varying by denomination; but you’d likely recognize graduates of one affiliated with yours.)

No 72 hour respawn?

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The video cut out too soon. What do fish do?

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He didn’t ask them for a dime. He asked them for $300.

A doctorate in counseling makes sense - it’s common for psychologists who practice on patients (as opposed to doing research, and also in contrast to psychiatrists who have MD degrees as well as psych specialist training) to have a master’s or PhD in counseling, and it would be useful training for somebody who wants to be a pastor (the actually-helping-individuals part of the job, as opposed to the preaching or education parts, or the administrative parts, or, in small churches, the plumbing/roofing/HVAC/bookkeeping/web-design/cooking/etc. parts.)

According to Wikipedia, a Doctorate in Theology is typically abbreviated D.Th. or Th.D., and is a research title roughly equivalent to a PhD. (There are also Doctorates in Divinity, Ministry, etc., with different abbreviations.) Whether it’s equivalent to a PhD in literature from Harvard or a PhD in check-writing from mail-order-degrees.com depends on the school. Harvard just recently renamed their ThD program a “PhD in Religion”; Universal Life Church sells a Doctor of Divinity degree.

I dunno about airplanes, but I’ve known a few African American churches that felt it was important to see their minister in a big expensive new car. If he was driving around in a Corolla, that would reflect badly on them, as if they’re too poor or too cheap to do things right. White churches do the same thing, but with buildings instead of cars.

I never knew a congregation with an aircraft, but I imagine it works the same way.

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There is no hypocrisy in denying someone a degree they purchased from a shoddy diploma mill, and another that was earned through their works.

Predestination in a nutshell.

Yeah, you don’t want your minister flying around in an old Sopwith Camel now!

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The REALLY scary part (as always) is in the YouTube comments. It seems he’s got his flock (of sheeple?) to spam it with adoration and praise that he is able to “Dream so big!”… Just goes to show that there is never one truth for all - no matter what people like Dr. Dollar try to pretend.

According to Wikipedia he just has a Bachelor’s, although it’s likely the article is inaccurate due to the current interest in Creflo.

Personally, I find honorary degrees bullshit, and in fact offensive because it belittles the work actual degree-earning students have to do to get their PhDs.

I refuse to call someone with an honorary degree but no earned degree a doctor, no matter how esteemed they are. Much like I refuse to call the pope or the dalai lama “your/their/his/her holiness” or a king or queen “majesty”. I’ve yet to see anything “holy” much less anyone, and I better be impressed with a monarch’s majesticness before I call them “majesty”.

ND’s are right-out. I have addressed NDs as “Not Doctor” to their face in the past.

What are we supposed to call Nurse Practitioners? My primary provider is an NP but she wears a long lab coat and the nurses and other staff refer to her as “your doctor.” Are they just using simplified English so as not to confuse the potentially uneducated patient, or is that proper terminology?

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I don’t know what’s proper terminoligy here. I’d be inclined to call an NP or ARNP “doctor” because they went to school and met strict standards to practice medicine while also continuing their education while working.

I’m not inclined to call a naturopath who went to Hollywood Upstairs Integrative Medicine college a doctor, because there’s no standard of education for them, and there’s no standard of care for what they do. Much like nutritionists vs dieticians. Nutritionists aren’t doctors because any joe-shmoe high school dropout can hang up a shingle as a nutritionist, whereas dieticians are evidence-based practitioners who have to undergo continuing education to keep their license.

In any case, I was mostly talking about honorary degrees. I don’t find an honorary degree convincing reason to call anyone a doctor of anything. Including Stephen Colbert, who has two honorary degrees. He’s not a doctor of anything even though he has an honorary certificate with DFA on it.

I say if universities want to honor someone, they should hand out medals, or name something after the person instead of handing out bogus credentials in all senses of the word bogus.

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“Didn’t ask for a dime.”

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Colbert’s list of credentials is meant to satirize exactly the honorary-degree-flaunting bozos you’re talking about. He’s also a Jordanian knight, Heavyweight Champion of the World, First Lady of France, and Mos Def.

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I was using him as an example on purpose :wink: But I wasn’t clear about that, because I keep losing my train of thought.

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I dunno. Is the Red Baron really SATAN!!!

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