This is the same David Frum, author of āthe axis of evilā --who was a main supporter and advocate for the Iraq War.
Why does anyone listen to a warhawk, warmongering and former George W. Bush speech writer, whoās war advocacy cost the lost of life of thousands of U.S. soldiers and tenās of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
This is the same David Frum whoās advocacy for the Iraq War has led the rise of the terrorist organization Daesh.
However, if his analysis is as reported, he gets some things right.
Because as a GOP insider, heās well placed to offer analysis of how the GOP works (or doesnāt).
You donāt have to like the man.
It is not about liking or disliking Frum, or me needing any inside analysis from him, that may be informative to others like youāthats fine.
He is a big part of what is wrong with the warmongering GOP.
No one who is aware needs any insider information on the motives of Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, John Bolton and David Frum etcā¦
We did not have to go to war with Iraq for oil and as a part of remaking the Middle Eastāand we donāt need to remake the Middle East and world by going to war with Iran, Syria, Cuba, North Korea, African countries or whoever else extreme neocon warmongers designate.
Let them send their children and relatives off to die, but that will never happen, because all of the neocon warmongers dodged the draft and refused to fight when their tme to serve was present.
There is another option. They splinter off a sizable chunk into third party.
A girl can dreamā¦
Especially since that would give the democrats the opportunity to do the same thing.
Contemporaryā¦ politics are largely a process in which 1% kingmakers ram through their favorite candidate ā who is inevitably hostile to the interests of the majority of voters ā and then try to terrify their base about the awfulness of the other partyās candidateā¦
Sounds like youāre saying both parties are exactly the same and thereās no point in voting. But only one party wants you to stay home on election day. One party is trying to increase voter turnout, while one is using every desperate and illegal trick to suppress the vote. They donāt sound the same to me.
Yeah, the Founding Fathers didnāt get everything right, did they?
The only way we can break out of the two-party system is for them to splinter, which automatically favors whoever DOESNāT splinter.
I could do a lot of good with a fraction of the resources dedicated to a system thatās never going to work. How much money is donated to each party in order to prevent the other from winning?
Ugh, quit propagating the same stupid echo chamber politics that keep people like Trump and Cruz going strong. Frum is a realist, a member of the Loyal Opposition, and is at least fundamentally rational. To simply dismiss all of his ideas in their entirety because he was a realpolitik warhawk is both irrational and self-defeating.
All you have to do is read his words with a clear dispassionate head and you instantly know theyāre true. The only question is what to do about it all.
So, you didnāt read the article, is that what weāre getting?
Perhaps heās disappointed.
Because itās completely possible to someone we would call totally fucked-up and evil, and still be intelligent. That and he likely has more insight in to what republicans are doing and thinking than you or me.
ā[C]lass ā¦ has increasingly become a division within the parties, not between them. Since 1984, nearly every Democratic presidential-primary race has ended as a contest between a āwine trackā ā¦ and a ābeer trackā candidate ā¦ The Republicans have their equivalent in the battles between āWall Streetā and āMain Streetā candidates. Until this decade, however, both partiesāand especially the historically more cohesive Republicansāmanaged to keep sufficient class peace to preserve party unity. Not anymore, at least not for the Republicans ā¦A substantial minority of Republicansāalmost 30 percentāsaid they would welcome āheavyā taxes on the wealthy, according to Gallup.ā
@khepra is right that no one needs David Frum to see that the Reagan coalition has cracked apart on class lines. @doctorow is right that itās galvanizing to read the admission in print from people like David Frum.
You and your wacky ābeing reasonableā thing.
Whatever are we going to do with you?
Hey! How did you figure out who I am?
No, Frum was a warmonger, actually. He actively supported the Iraq war, until it became unpopular. The alienation of the conservative-leaning white working class was completed by the wars of choice since 9/11. Frum is partially responsible for that, in that he beat the drums of war. And now heās wondering what āwent wrongā?
Frum helped create this shit weāre all swimming in and now he wants to deny all responsibility for it. I donāt know about you, but Iām sort of sick of the pundit class trying to have it both ways.
They would have to get rid of first past the post/winner take all policies to splinter the teabaggers off and make other sub-parties and still have ātheirā candidates have a chance.
I personally donāt see that happening.
WTF is a āDemocrat voterā? You mean Democratic, surely. Please donāt be as stupid as the Republicans who insist upon using a noun where an adjective is called for.
Wow, are you for real?
